# Worth a read - more ignorant RonR Head Bashing!

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [August 14, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860 "2008-08-14T16:43:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860/1 "2008-08-14T16:43:00Z")

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> **[Cart Of The Week: Shopify](https://www.practicalecommerce.com/Cart-Of-The-Week-Shopify)**
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> Practical eCommerce counts over 300 different shopping cart platforms. This includes licensed carts, hosted carts and open-source carts. In this, our new "Cart of the Week" feature, we’ll profile a specific shopping cart and ask personnel of that...

Dave

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**Author:** ![Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860/2 "2008-08-14T18:12:42Z")

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On Aug 14, 9:42 am, Davo [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> [Cart Of The Week: Shopify - Practical Ecommerce](http://www.practicalecommerce.com/articles/800-Cart-Of-The-Week-Shopify)
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> Dave

I say, let other people use whatever they want, while we use Rails,  
compete against them, and win. 🙂

Jeff

REST with Rails  
Oct 4, 2008, Austin, TX  
[http://www.purpleworkshops.com/workshops/rest-and-web-services](http://www.purpleworkshops.com/workshops/rest-and-web-services)

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**Author:** ![Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860/3 "2008-08-15T14:03:09Z")

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The big problem with rails is same as with other great open source  
products - it is better than it’s closed source alternatives. And if  
these closed source products are supported by big companies then you  
start seeing false myths (rails doesn’t scale, linux has only console,  
etc.). I believe biggest companies even have employees responsible for  
spreading these myths. Agreed with Jeff, let’s simply win against  
those not using rails ;).

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**Author:** ![Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860/4 "2008-08-15T15:13:28Z")

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On 15 Aug 2008, at 14:50, CPerry wrote:

> People said the same things about Linux for quite a long time (and  
> some still do), yet more and more people and companies are starting to  
> adopt it. Rails will be there at some point. People always initially  
> fear whatever is totally different than what they are comfortable  
> with, until they have the chance to really understand it.
> 
> I agree that Rails has some issues that need to be dealt with, but  
> nothing more than any other technology out there has. Rails is still  
> young also, so it will be a little longer before all of the bugs and  
> issues are ironed out.

Exactly. We Europeans have to hear exactly the same thing about the  
Mac, and mostly from people who never even touched a Mac in their  
life. Over the last couple of years, Macs have become fashionable in  
the US and the everlasting Mac bashing has mostly disappeared on US  
blogs. People always fear what they don’t know and companies with  
commercial interest invest time and money in maintaining the FUD.  
Eventually good things always prevail though, so we don’t really have  
to worry.

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

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**Author:** ![Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Davo](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/worth-a-read-more-ignorant-ronr-head-bashing/145860/5 "2008-08-15T14:51:48Z")

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People said the same things about Linux for quite a long time (and  
some still do), yet more and more people and companies are starting to  
adopt it. Rails will be there at some point. People always initially  
fear whatever is totally different than what they are comfortable  
with, until they have the chance to really understand it.

I agree that Rails has some issues that need to be dealt with, but  
nothing more than any other technology out there has. Rails is still  
young also, so it will be a little longer before all of the bugs and  
issues are ironed out.

–Cory
