# With\_scope and filters for Rails 1.1 (scoped\_access plugin) **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [March 31, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408 "2006-03-31T00:58:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ebca7d/32.png) [@Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jon_Tirsen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408/1 "2006-03-31T00:58:34Z")
Has anyone successfully gotten the scoped\_access[1] plugin to work in Rails 1.1? Some of the methods it was relying on are now no longer accessible. It seems the only way to add scope is to use the ‘with\_scope’ method that takes a block, but since Rails doesn’t have real around filters[2] I cannot see a way of adding a scope using a filter. Anyone using with\_scope and filters that can shed any light? Cheers, Jon [1] [http://habtm.com/articles/2006/02/22/nested-with\_scope](http://habtm.com/articles/2006/02/22/nested-with_scope) [2] “around” was originally defined in CLOS (Common Lisp) 30 years ago. It’s when some form of interceptor is called and is given full control of calling the next interceptor in the chain. “around” is simple yet incredibly powerful and can not only be used to implement “before” and “after” but all sorts of crazy interception types. I’m slightly disappointed Rails doesn’t have real “around” but hey, maybe I should just submit a patch! ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ebca7d/32.png) [@Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jon_Tirsen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408/2 "2006-03-31T06:09:41Z")
Jon Tirsen wrote: > [2] “around” was originally defined in CLOS (Common Lisp) 30 years ago. Less than 20 years - Common Lisp itself (without CLOS) came out in 1984, and CLOS was added around 1988. ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ebca7d/32.png) [@Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jon_Tirsen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408/3 "2006-03-31T07:01:51Z")
Justin F. wrote: > Less than 20 years - Common Lisp itself (without CLOS) came out in 1984, > and CLOS was added around 1988. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ebca7d/32.png) [@Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jon_Tirsen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 10:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408/4 "2006-03-31T10:11:20Z")
Jon Tirsen wrote: > Has anyone successfully gotten the scoped\_access[1] plugin to work in > Rails 1.1? I thought scoped\_access was now built into 1.1 so no need for a plugin anymore, but I could be wrong… Jeroen ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ebca7d/32.png) [@Jon\_Tirsen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jon_Tirsen)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/with-scope-and-filters-for-rails-1-1-scoped-access-plugin/56408/5 "2006-04-02T05:08:23Z")
Jon Tirsen wrote: > Justin F. wrote: > > > Less than 20 years - Common Lisp itself (without CLOS) came out in 1984, > > and CLOS was added around 1988. > > I stand corrected. Sorry to be picky… I was using Interlisp-D and LOOPS (precursor to CLOS) in 1984, then Common Lisp and CLOS on Macintosh around 1990. I must get back up to speed with Common Lisp. One of my colleagues from the 90’s has managed to stay with Common Lisp, exclusively… and another is running a company specialising in Erlang, another language on my list.