# WikiInclude on 0.11 - Noah Kantrowitz blocks bug-fix

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/wikiinclude-on-0-11-noah-kantrowitz-blocks-bug-fix/123476>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [December 18, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/wikiinclude-on-0-11-noah-kantrowitz-blocks-bug-fix/123476 "2007-12-18T03:26:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/wikiinclude-on-0-11-noah-kantrowitz-blocks-bug-fix/123476/1 "2007-12-18T03:26:02Z")

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Essence:

- Deletion of valid defect reports on trac community resources

The “WikiInclude” plugin is not recognised on trac 0.11, thus I took a  
look an made a small addition to the setup.py (the entry\_point).

Other users have the same problem, thus I filed a ticket in the “trac-  
hacks” community resource.

Mr. Noah Kantrowitz closed the ticket as “invalid”. My comments within  
this ticket are deleted, directly in the database, which is the same  
as censorship. I’ve copied the email-notification from my comment  
below. [1]

Please realize:

- this is a real-live defect, which remains unprocessed, thus more  
users run into this trouble.
- My attemps to inform users in the user-threads do not show up in  
all threads (moderation on trac-users!!!)
- The “IncludeMacro” is not compatible to the “WikiInclude” macro
- My comments were deleted in a non-trackable way
- Users of the WikiInclude plugin are not informed in any way

You are may wondering why the trac project fails to produce a stable  
1.0 version since years. The answer is here:

[http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/TracAudit](http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/TracAudit)

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## #2294: Plugin is not detectd on trac 0.11 (even the 0.11 specific one)

## ±------------------------------------------ Reporter: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid | Owner: yu-ji Type: defect | Status: reopened Priority: normal | Component: WikiIncludePlugin Severity: critical | Resolution: Keywords: | Release: 0.11

±------------------------------------------  
Changes (by removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid):

- status: closed =\> reopened
- resolution: invalid =\>
- summary: Missing “entry\_point” within setup.py =\> Plugin is not  
detectd on trac 0.11 (even the 0.11 specific  
one)

Comment:

(Mr. Kantrowitz. This is defenitely a defect, which occoured for  
several  
users. The provided information helps any user which hits on this  
ticket  
via a search. I ask you once more to stop with the deletions on this  
‘’‘community’‘’ resource).

The resolution “invalid” is incorrect.

The problem exists for me ‘’‘and other’‘’ users, see e.g.:

- [[http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse\_frm/thread/](http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_frm/thread/)  
de454e7dcf9f0438/d9806ad4a31a14a7 thread 1]
- [[http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse\_frm/thread/](http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_frm/thread/)  
2ccf4b2855a6f242?q=WikiInclude& thread 2]

I’ve solved it whilst simply adding the entry point to the setup.py.

It is ok to point to the more flexible and maintained “IncludeMacro”,  
but  
other people possibly just want to continue to use the simpler  
“WikiInclude” one.

I suggest the maintainer of “WikiInclude” (or another developer)  
corrects  
the setup.py in the repo, and additionally one should place a note in  
the  
“WikiInclude” documentation, that there’s a more flexible  
“IncludeMacro”  
available.

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/wikiinclude-on-0-11-noah-kantrowitz-blocks-bug-fix/123476/2 "2007-12-18T05:01:17Z")

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On Dec 18, 4:23 am, Ilias L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Essence:
> 
> - Deletion of valid defect reports on trac community resources

UPDATE:

Instead of fixing the “WikiInclude” in the repo (or at least leave the  
ticket open, thus a developer can do it), Mr. Noah Kantrowitz goes his  
very special way (hint: his nick “coderanger”) to suggest to use the  
“IncludeMacro”:

“This plugin uses the older style trac\_plugin.txt file. If you need  
something more 0.11 compatible, try the IncludeMacro.”  
[http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2294#comment:1](http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2294#comment:1)

This is of course completely nonsense. I don’t want to use the complex  
and buggy “IncludeMacro”. The “WikiInclude” can be corrected with just  
one line.

But ok, let’s take a at Mr. Noah Kantrowitz creation, the  
“IncludeMacro”. Does it work with 0.11? He does not know, thus he  
asks:

“What about the current version doesn’t work in 0.11?”  
[http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2310#comment:3](http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2310#comment:3)

who received this question? A user, which has provided a 0.11  
implementation of the plugin:

"

- summary changed from [patch] 0.11 patch to 0.11 version of  
IncludeMacro.

Well, there’s certainly no need to get snippy over semantics 😉

There wasn’t a version of IncludeMacro for 0.11, so I created one in  
the hopes that other Trac admins might find it useful – humblest  
apologies for erroneously referring to my submission as a “patch”.  
Having said that, if you feel so inclined as to review my version,  
then that would be superb, as I’m sure potential future users would  
feel much better if my contribution had your blessing and/or fixes.  
"  
[http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2310#comment:2](http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/2310#comment:2)

Other tickets remain completely unprocessed, although they give an  
answer to his question “does it work on 0.11”:

“The macros.py of Includewikimacro contain : macro = WikiProcessor?  
(self.env, ‘Include’) for the rendering of the wiki page. Whereas now  
with the version 0.11, the function WikiProcessor?() nead a formatter  
as first argument and not anymore an environment.”  
08/27/07 05:13:21 changed by sibok@tis\*\*\*.fr  
[http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/1973](http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/1973)

Mr. Noah Kantrowitz does not care about the trac users, otherwise he  
would update the svn of the WikiInclude macro and the documentation to  
inform users, instead of violently closing a valid ticket as an  
invalid one.

A few more wild-west CODERANGERS like Noah Kantrowitz can ruine the  
already very slow progress of the trac-project completely.

User comments and user feedback is critical for any open-source  
project. Engouraging contributions, instead of surpressing them is  
essential.

Trac-Users, please do not accept such a surpressive behaviour - it  
costs your time.

(btw: I am a 0.11dev user, see [http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/wiki](http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/wiki))

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