# \_why's "suicide" note? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [August 24, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295 "2009-08-24T16:45:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/1 "2009-08-24T16:45:41Z")
Just found this as \_why’s last tweet on the Google cached copy of \_why’s twitter account: “burying myself feet first in the woods with the hope that this will lead to a career as a much beloved and sought after mouth-under-a-rock.” [http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:NoVO3FqLZSoJ:twitter.com/\_Why](http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:NoVO3FqLZSoJ:twitter.com/_Why) ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/2 "2009-08-24T21:12:43Z")
On Aug 24, 10:45 am, Graham A. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Just found this as \_why’s last tweet on the Google cached copy of \_why’s > twitter account: > > “burying myself feet first in the woods with the hope that this will > lead to a career as a much beloved and sought after mouth-under-a-rock.” \_why, She ain’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/3 "2009-08-24T19:16:12Z")
On Aug 24, 10:45 am, Graham A. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Just found this as \_why’s last tweet on the Google cached copy of \_why’s > twitter account: > > “burying myself feet first in the woods with the hope that this will > lead to a career as a much beloved and sought after mouth-under-a-rock.” > > ## [http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:NoVO3FqLZSoJ:twitter.com/\_Why](http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:NoVO3FqLZSoJ:twitter.com/_Why) > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. “Ruby mailing list,” not “internet celebrity gossip board.” Please stop this. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/4 "2009-08-24T21:16:49Z")
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:15 PM, pharrington[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > “Ruby mailing list,” not “internet celebrity gossip board.” > > Please stop this. > No please do not. I respectfully disagree with your POV. The sequence > of the twitter messages of \_Why is _alarming_ I do not like this. I > would love if \_why had the courage to “email” privately to me. I have > the feeling he needs to talk. Talking is incredibly powerful, even > more powerful than Ruby. > But I really do not like this, maybe someone a little more qualified > than me would like to say something. > I feel a little bit dissapointed that “OMG we will lose Hapricot” ( > which would be bad, but will not happen ) is more important than “OMG > we lose \_Why”. \_Why cannot be cloned. Yours thoughtfully. Robert ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/5 "2009-08-24T21:25:36Z")
2009/8/24 Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) > > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > than me would like to say something. > > – > module Kernel > alias\_method :λ, :lambda > end I would have to agree with Robert. Above that though isn’t this an easy problem to fix by simply applying a human filter? If they subject is about \_Why then one could choose to not read the message. This is a community after all and part of the community has gone missing, doesn’t matter if that part is a person or not. What matters is that it was/they were a part. – “Hey brother Christian with your high and mighty errand, Your actions speak so loud, I can’t hear a word you’re saying.” -Greg Graffin (Bad Religion) ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/6 "2009-08-24T21:46:06Z")
On Aug 24, 3:24 pm, Glen H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > lead to a career as a much beloved and sought after mouth-under-a-rock" > > > > would love if \_why had the courage to “email” privately to me. I have > > > > Yours thoughtfully. > > This is a community after all and part of the community has gone missing, > doesn’t matter if that part is a person or not. What matters is that it > was/they were a part. > > – > “Hey brother Christian with your high and mighty errand, Your actions speak > so loud, I can¢t hear a word you¢re saying.” > > -Greg Graffin (Bad Religion) I suppose I’m coming from the position of 1. If \_why really _does_ end himself, I’d much have the news come from an actual report (since he’s identity’s not exactly secret now) than trying to interpret a cryptic tweet. 2. If he _doesn’t_ end himself, then this sort of discussion is of absolutely no help what-so-ever, and is just sensationalist BS I’m obviously not against mourning anyone, its just that a thread like seems like it can only result in a collaborate choose-your-own- adventure game, except the foundation being a real, apparently very troubled, human life. There’s a pretty big difference between interest and blatant disrespect. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/7 "2009-08-24T22:00:09Z")
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM, pharrington[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I’m obviously not against mourning anyone, its just that a thread like > seems like it can only result in a collaborate choose-your-own- > adventure game, except the foundation being a real, apparently very > troubled, human life. There’s a pretty big difference between interest > and blatant disrespect. > But you are assuming things here, you might be mistaken, I hope. I do > not assume that \_Why has gone, I just assume that he is unhappy and > might be in distress. Seems important to me! R. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/8 "2009-08-24T23:24:26Z")
On Aug 24, 3:56 pm, Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Seems important to me! > R. Maybe I’m just assuming the OP is assuming? Either way, I’ve said my share. Have on. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/9 "2009-08-25T00:17:42Z")
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 02:15:06AM +0900, pharrington wrote: > “Ruby mailing list,” not “internet celebrity gossip board.” > Please stop this. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 06:20:09AM +0900, pharrington wrote: > > But you are assuming things here, you might be mistaken, I > > hope. I do not assume that \_Why has gone, I just assume that > > he is unhappy and might be in distress. Seems important to me! > > Maybe I’m just assuming the OP is assuming? Either way, > > I’ve said my share. Have on. 1. I well might have missed your appointment as a moderator; 2. either didn’t see you here when why’s interactive Ruby tutorial was already out there and useful. Please learn to use private mail or google search, or both. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/10 "2009-08-25T10:41:14Z")
Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) writes: > > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > than me would like to say something. > > > Don’t be alarmed. In my youngth I also ditched computers once. I > > > could not stand it more than one month. If he doesn’t get caught by > > > BigFoot, he’ll be back sooner than later. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/11 "2009-08-25T10:58:53Z")
Thanks for your replies. In terms of assumptions, I have never thought that the living, breathing, private person who is \_why has committed suicide; only that the public persona he uses has ceased to exist. Hence the use of double quotes in the subject. And to be honest I’m surprised that anyone in the Ruby community would not be interested in the “demise” of a persona such as \_why. He has taught us a lot about Ruby over the years. He has brought many peolpe into the Ruby world through his many gifts - W§GtR, Shoes, Hpricot, etc ad inf. And he has always done so with great and surprising humor. What more could we ask for in a teacher? So my original post was not intended to spam the list. Only to pique the interest of others of \_why’s students, and perhaps suggest that indeed we have lost \_why (the persona). If this is the case, we can only hope that his creator will return to the Ruby community in another form. ---
**Author:** ![graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@graza](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/graza)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whys-suicide-note/174295/12 "2009-08-25T11:42:07Z")
Hello hello & hello My observation is a non-technical. At one time, I thought I’d like to add-value as a therapist – Over the last couple of months I had my own personal and inter-personal meltdown. My comment is for the 10% to 15% of folk out there who see ‘less supportive’ comments and . . . You know WHAT? ‘Pain’ isn’t relative and it isn’t objective. To be honest, “it just hurts”, or worse people will tell you it “sucks a hole” 🙂 My daughter called me to task, she has had her own load of stuff. She used to resist her counsellor sessions when she was a high-school musician. Now she’s doing much better and she said to me, “just talk about it” – With someone [professional] dad, it helps. Even with my background into psychology and behaviour, etc. – I baulked. I remembered an Enigma line, popular among the Nilists and Goths from my earlier days: “You have to be week to be strong …” (You might read Emo in 2009). I dunno if you have Life-Line in your corner of the 24 x 7 interworld. There’s always a public good group out there ready to L.I.S.T.E.N and //respond//. When the statistical some of you have troubles in the future == Make a phone call. I put some resource links below from Oz. I sometimes wonder if a 1800- type IM line would be useful to the Gen-Y & Gen-X cadre? Comments would be interesting. Not on here, comp.lang.Ruby (I think). Why did I comment? Apart from my recent experiences/history … A couple of good friends of mine used to work a national park rangers. It was not uncommon to see abandon cars atop the cliffs of natural beauty spots and gory evidence at the base. Anxiety and depression are for the “strong” people who say, things like (quote) \<\<… not “internet celebrity gossip board.” \>\> (unquote). We’ve had a prolonged drought here; bush fires; floods; and now a global-financial-crisis. Stress is real. The effects are real. ‘Superman’ [Neitzsche] is a work of art. Well anyway, may be one person will see this and call someone, find help or support a friend. I did. I felt better for 5 of the days between my weekly sessions. OK, … I’m going now – One thing I see is that comp.lang.\* is usually populated by /intellectual types/ who ‘think’ things in their head, philosophise, etc. That ‘response’ is inappropriate for ‘this emotional stuff’ – It is like chewing and eating air. Oh! But you fart a lot!!! Good luck folks! . . . Will * * * - [http://www.lifeline.org.au](http://www.lifeline.org.au) - [http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx](http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx)? - [Man and Superman - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_and_Superman) (George B. Shaw) - [Übermensch - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch) (or ‘super man’) On Aug 25, 6:36 pm, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid (Pascal J. Bourguignon)