# What's up w/this group now that the gateway is back?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [July 7, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560 "2006-07-07T22:32:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/1 "2006-07-07T22:32:36Z")

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We keep getting answers to posts but not the original post. Is there  
any way to correct for this? I certainly learn more from answers to  
questions, than just answers or thank you postings. 🙂

Ken

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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/2 "2006-07-07T22:35:48Z")

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Kenosis wrote:

> We keep getting answers to posts but not the original post. Is there  
> any way to correct for this? I certainly learn more from answers to  
> questions, than just answers or thank you postings. 🙂
> 
> Ken

I’m guessing they are from older threads?

-Justin

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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/3 "2006-07-07T22:54:47Z")

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On 7/7/06, Kenosis [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> We keep getting answers to posts but not the original post. Is there  
> any way to correct for this? I certainly learn more from answers to  
> questions, than just answers or thank you postings. 🙂

As Justin said, they’re from older posts. The restoration of the  
gateway is not retroactive – posts that had appeared on c.l.r. or the  
mailing list prior to the restoration weren’t flooded to the other  
side, only new posts are ferried across. As the threads cut by the  
restoration finish and new threads start, this “problem” will go away.  
🙂

Jacob F.

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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/4 "2006-07-07T23:13:34Z")

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On Jul 7, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Jacob F. wrote:

> On 7/7/06, Kenosis [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> 
> > We keep getting answers to posts but not the original post. Is there  
> > any way to correct for this? I certainly learn more from answers to  
> > questions, than just answers or thank you postings. 🙂
> 
> As Justin said, they’re from older posts. The restoration of the  
> gateway is not retroactive – posts that had appeared on c.l.r. or the  
> mailing list prior to the restoration weren’t flooded to the other  
> side, only new posts are ferried across.

I considered going back in time a little to play catch-up, but I  
figured I would get hate mail for the flooding and we would still  
have the exact same problem. (We would just see the middle of older  
threads.)

Given that, I figured the small adjustment period as we get back into  
the discussions was the lesser evil. I agree this problem will  
naturally solve itself in time.

James Edward G. II

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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/5 "2006-07-07T23:39:10Z")

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On 7/7/06, James Edward G. II [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I considered going back in time a little to play catch-up, but I  
> figured I would get hate mail for the flooding and we would still  
> have the exact same problem. (We would just see the middle of older  
> threads.)

Exactly. I’m one of them. 🙂 Well, I wouldn’t have sent you hate mail,  
but I might have grumbled a little under my breath. 🙂

And you’re absolutely right, as long as the cut is rigid across a  
point in time, you’re not going to get a clean cut (barring extreme  
luck). One option would have been to see all active threads (had a  
response in the last 24 hours, for instance), and only copy the old  
posts from those threads over… but I wouldn’t wish the chore of  
collecting those posts on anyone.

Jacob F.

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**Author:** ![Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kenosis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kenosis)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-up-w-this-group-now-that-the-gateway-is-back/97560/6 "2006-07-08T00:13:08Z")

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That makes sense and I agree that what were seeing now is better than  
the alternative. Thanks for the explanations.

Ken
