I have to be honest, Ruby isn’t the most well-documented language,
from a newbies point of view. The docs aren’t as tutorial-like as,
say, the PHP manual is. Of course, as other have already said, Ruby
doesn’t get documented by itself – help is appreciated.
Considering Ruby’s “youth” – somewhere in the 1.8 - 1.9 range, compared
to the other scripting languages on my systems: TclTk (8.4.13), Perl
(5.8.8), PHP (5.1.4), Lua (5.0.2) and Python (2.4.3) – I think Ruby is
exceptionally well documented. Of course, I’m far from a newbie. Between
Chris P.'s “Learn to Program” and the Pickaxe book (version one is
freely available!) I’d say the newbies have absolutely no excuses on the
documentation front.
I find it most troubling that I do not know right now if 1.9 will
become an official release. While people arguing around had good
reasons to do so, they thaught, I believe that the fact that I am
troubled shall not be ignored. Not because I am important, simply
because I am a human being -until the opposit is proven- and it is
likely that others feel likewise.
I am not bothered that you’re troubled. Until earlier this week, I was
under the impression that no version of Ruby 1.9 would not be released
as a production version. Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that
indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as
a production version for Christmas … 2007.
This information is from RedHanded.
Additionally, the Ruby website is currently undergoing a transition. If
it’s not being updated often, it’s because people are working – in
their copious spare time – on preparing a new visual identity.
I furthermore believe it is stupid to say something like: “Hey you
really need a link there or there” On the other hand I believe it
clever, not offensive and correct to ask: “Could somebody kindly give
some evidence about the future development of ruby”… … which I am
hereby doing.
The best thing to do this is to look at Mauricio F.'s eigenclass
blog. He’s keeping on top of it.
I find it most troubling that I do not know right now if 1.9 will
become an official release. While people arguing around had good
reasons to do so, they thaught, I believe that the fact that I am
troubled shall not be ignored. Not because I am important, simply
because I am a human being -until the opposit is proven- and it is
likely that others feel likewise.
I am not bothered that you’re troubled.
I am glad because it was not my intention
Until earlier this week, I was
under the impression that no version of Ruby 1.9 would not be released
as a production version.
So was I
Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that
indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as
a production version for Christmas … 2007.
And this is troubling because of backward compatibility
we will have backword incompatibilities twice
1.8 → 1.9 → 2.0
Hopefully I am wrong on this.
This information is from RedHanded.
Additionally, the Ruby website is currently undergoing a transition. If
it’s not being updated often, it’s because people are working – in
their copious spare time – on preparing a new visual identity.
Did I ever complain about it? See below
I furthermore believe it is stupid to say something like: "Hey you
really need a link there or there" On the other hand I believe it
clever, not offensive and correct to ask: “Could somebody kindly give
some evidence about the future development of ruby”… … which I am
hereby doing.
The best thing to do this is to look at Mauricio F.'s eigenclass
blog. He’s keeping on top of it.
That’s the statement I wanted to hear, ty.
Cheers
Robert
As others have stated above, you have a tendency to get combative with
people and show others a general lack of respect. That in and of
itself is unacceptable behavior, but moreover, the people you are
arguing with have put a lot of work into the tools you seem to be
taking for granted. It is not good etiquette on your part to belittle
their efforts.
If you look at thread you will see that I started the thread out nice
and simple.
I was looking for information on the next Ruby version and that a link
should exist on the official Ruby site.
Before “Austin Z.” decided to go on his rant 4 people agreed with
me.
So I believe you are preaching to the wrong person.
If you look at thread you will see that I started the thread out nice
and simple.
I was looking for information on the next Ruby version and that a link
should exist on the official Ruby site.
Before “Austin Z.” decided to go on his rant 4 people agreed with
me.
So I believe you are preaching to the wrong person.
I don’t believe I am preaching. I’m simply offering you some
helpful–if unsolicited–advice, and I won’t be dragged into a “he
started it” argument with you.
The point is you’ve shown an incredible lack of tact by resorting to
name-calling. In fact, you’ve insulted someone who isn’t even a part
of this conversation. IF you truly believe that sort of action to be
the conduct of a constructive member of a community, by all means keep
doing it. My guess is you will be find yourself blocked or ignored by
a large number of people here.
I believe, on the other hand, that you will find people much more
willing to help you with your questions when you are polite. The
members on this list are a very helpful bunch of folks; please don’t
take advantage of their good nature.
In either event, if you’d like to continue this conversation feel free
to contact me off list.
In message “Re: Whats new/fixed in Ruby 1.9 and Ruby 2.0”
on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:47:56 +0900, “Robert D.” [email protected] writes:
|Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that
|> indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as
|> a production version for Christmas … 2007.
|
|And this is troubling because of backward compatibility
|we will have backword incompatibilities twice
|1.8 → 1.9 → 2.0
|Hopefully I am wrong on this.
All major incompatibility shall be introduced by 1.9 hopefully.
I am sorry, but I meant something else.
Please excuse me, but English is not my native language.
What I meant was … should have more publicity, because newbies
don’t like searching miles of email messages on mailing lists to
get the status of the project.
That’s why Google searches for them. Newbies only have to search
through the top 10 hits for their google search.