# Whats new/fixed in Ruby 1.9 and Ruby 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [June 16, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586 "2006-06-16T13:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/41 "2006-06-17T18:04:54Z")
Daniel S. wrote: > I have to be honest, Ruby isn’t the most well-documented language, > from a newbies point of view. The docs aren’t as tutorial-like as, > say, the PHP manual is. Of course, as other have already said, Ruby > doesn’t get documented by itself – help is appreciated. > Considering Ruby’s “youth” – somewhere in the 1.8 - 1.9 range, compared > to the other scripting languages on my systems: TclTk (8.4.13), Perl > (5.8.8), PHP (5.1.4), Lua (5.0.2) and Python (2.4.3) – I think Ruby is > exceptionally well documented. Of course, I’m far from a newbie. Between > Chris P.'s “Learn to Program” and the Pickaxe book (version one is > freely available!) I’d say the newbies have absolutely no excuses on the > documentation front. – M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > **[世界杯竞猜彩票-世界杯官网竞猜（集团）有限公司](http://www.linuxcapacityplanning.com/)** > > 世界杯竞猜彩票一直以来遵守商业道德，世界杯官网竞猜坚持诚信为本，保证诚实经营。世界杯竞猜彩票先后成为安徽省电子商务协会理事单位、安徽省网商协会会员单位、合肥市电子商务协会理事单位、合肥市服务外包行业协会会员单位、安徽省云计算产业促进会会员单位。世界杯官网竞猜一直保持良好的技术及服务态度，更好地为客户服务。 ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/42 "2006-06-18T00:43:37Z")
On 6/17/06, Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I find it most troubling that I do not know right now if 1.9 will > become an official release. While people arguing around had good > reasons to do so, they thaught, I believe that the fact that I am > troubled shall not be ignored. Not because I am important, simply > because I am a human being -until the opposit is proven- and it is > likely that others feel likewise. I am not bothered that you’re troubled. Until earlier this week, I was under the impression that no version of Ruby 1.9 would not be released as a production version. Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as a production version for Christmas … 2007. This information is from RedHanded. Additionally, the Ruby website is currently undergoing a transition. If it’s not being updated often, it’s because people are working – in their _copious_ spare time – on preparing a new visual identity. > I furthermore believe it is stupid to say something like: “Hey you > really need a link there or there” On the other hand I believe it > clever, not offensive and correct to ask: “Could somebody kindly give > some evidence about the future development of ruby”… … which I am > hereby doing. The best thing to do this is to look at Mauricio F.'s eigenclass blog. He’s keeping on top of it. -austin ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/43 "2006-06-18T00:50:06Z")
On 6/18/06, Austin Z. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On 6/17/06, Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > I find it most troubling that I do not know right now if 1.9 will > > become an official release. While people arguing around had good > > reasons to do so, they thaught, I believe that the fact that I am > > troubled shall not be ignored. Not because I am important, simply > > because I am a human being -until the opposit is proven- and it is > > likely that others feel likewise. > > I am not bothered that you’re troubled. I am glad because it was not my intention Until earlier this week, I was > under the impression that no version of Ruby 1.9 would not be released > as a production version. So was I Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that > indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as > a production version for Christmas … 2007. And this is troubling because of backward compatibility we will have backword incompatibilities twice 1.8 → 1.9 → 2.0 Hopefully I am wrong on this. This information is from RedHanded. > Additionally, the Ruby website is currently undergoing a transition. If > it’s not being updated often, it’s because people are working – in > their _copious_ spare time – on preparing a new visual identity. Did I ever complain about it? See below > I furthermore believe it is stupid to say something like: "Hey you > > > really need a link there or there" On the other hand I believe it > > clever, not offensive and correct to ask: “Could somebody kindly give > > some evidence about the future development of ruby”… … which I am > > hereby doing. > > The best thing to do this is to look at Mauricio F.'s eigenclass > blog. He’s keeping on top of it. That’s the statement I wanted to hear, ty. Cheers Robert ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/44 "2006-06-18T02:08:21Z")
Lou S. wrote: > As others have stated above, you have a tendency to get combative with > people and show others a general lack of respect. That in and of > itself is unacceptable behavior, but moreover, the people you are > arguing with have put a lot of work into the tools you seem to be > taking for granted. It is not good etiquette on your part to belittle > their efforts. If you look at thread you will see that I started the thread out nice and simple. I was looking for information on the next Ruby version and that a link should exist on the official Ruby site. Before “Austin Z.” decided to go on his rant 4 people agreed with me. So I believe you are preaching to the wrong person. ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/45 "2006-06-18T02:57:29Z")
On 6/17/06, Reggie Mr [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > If you look at thread you will see that I started the thread out nice > and simple. > I was looking for information on the next Ruby version and that a link > should exist on the official Ruby site. > > Before “Austin Z.” decided to go on his rant 4 people agreed with > me. > > So I believe you are preaching to the wrong person. I don’t believe I am preaching. I’m simply offering you some helpful–if unsolicited–advice, and I won’t be dragged into a “he started it” argument with you. The point is you’ve shown an incredible lack of tact by resorting to name-calling. In fact, you’ve insulted someone who isn’t even a part of this conversation. IF you truly believe that sort of action to be the conduct of a constructive member of a community, by all means keep doing it. My guess is you will be find yourself blocked or ignored by a large number of people here. I believe, on the other hand, that you will find people much more willing to help you with your questions when you are polite. The members on this list are a very helpful bunch of folks; please don’t take advantage of their good nature. In either event, if you’d like to continue this conversation feel free to contact me off list. ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/46 "2006-06-18T18:43:43Z")
On Jun 17, 2006, at 7:00 AM, Reggie Mr wrote: > Most software companies inform the user base about the next latest and > greatest to come. That’s part of their business model, used to _increase their income_. James Edward G. II ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/47 "2006-06-19T15:05:42Z")
Hi, In message “Re: Whats new/fixed in Ruby 1.9 and Ruby 2.0” on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:47:56 +0900, “Robert D.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) writes: |Ruby Kaigi 2006 has a statement from Matz that |\> indicates that this will not be the case. Ruby 1.9.1 will be released as |\> a production version for Christmas … 2007. | |And this is troubling because of backward compatibility |we will have backword incompatibilities twice |1.8 → 1.9 → 2.0 |Hopefully I am wrong on this. All major incompatibility shall be introduced by 1.9 hopefully. ``` matz. ``` ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/48 "2006-06-18T00:37:29Z")
On 6/17/06, Reggie Mr [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > As far as Mauricio F., this is what I found…doesn’t seem > relavant. > [http://www.promesa.org/leadership/docs/Fernandez.html](http://www.promesa.org/leadership/docs/Fernandez.html) “Mauricio F. +ruby” There’s a lot of Mauricio F.es out there. -austin ---
**Author:** ![rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@rpw](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rpw)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586/49 "2006-08-03T14:23:59Z")
On Jun 16, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Alex N. wrote: > I am sorry, but I meant something else. > Please excuse me, but English is not my native language. > > What I meant was … should have more publicity, because newbies > don’t like searching miles of email messages on mailing lists to > get the status of the project. That’s why Google searches for them. Newbies only have to search through the top 10 hits for their google search. – Elliot T. > **[Curiosity Blog – Elliot Temple](https://www.curi.us/blog/)** > > A philosophy blog [Previous page](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/whats-new-fixed-in-ruby-1-9-and-ruby-2-0/63586.md?page=2)