# What is the best login generator to use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [December 27, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169 "2005-12-27T16:00:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/1 "2005-12-27T16:00:21Z")
Hello, Where can I find a good login geenrator that has roles, email support… Thanks Frank ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/2 "2005-12-27T16:21:29Z")
Frank wrote: > Hello, > > Where can I find a good login geenrator that has roles, email support… > > Thanks > > Frank Hi Frank- You’re opening a can of worms around here mentioning login generator/plugin/component/engines. I started with the Salted Hash Login Generator and doctored it up quite a bit. I ended up moving some components to my “account\_controller”, some to my “signup\_controller”, some to my “admin/…\_controllers” and so on. It natively supports roles, but not in a fashion I wanted to use. I added a usergroup class/model and linked it through that. It does have email support. Cheers, Jake J. ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/3 "2005-12-27T16:56:29Z")
Jake is right, there is quite a bit of activity regarding login and role support around here. Taking that into account, I would like to give a vote of support to login\_engine and user\_engine. Login\_engine is basically Salted Hash Login Generator without the localization (making initial setup a bit easier) and it is a Rails Engine, which has great buzzword value. Regardless of any hype around the Engines system, I have found that they are both very useful and include some nice features out of the box… erm, svn checkout. Daniel H. ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/4 "2005-12-27T17:08:35Z")
I did not want to start a war. How do I install login\_engine and user\_engine? Thanks Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: “Daniel H.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) To: [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Rails] Re: What is the best login generator to use? Jake is right, there is quite a bit of activity regarding login and role support around here. Taking that into account, I would like to give a vote of support to login\_engine and user\_engine. Login\_engine is basically Salted Hash Login Generator without the localization (making initial setup a bit easier) and it is a Rails Engine, which has great buzzword value. Regardless of any hype around the Engines system, I have found that they are both very useful and include some nice features out of the box… erm, svn checkout. Daniel H. On 12/27/05, Jake J. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Hi Frank- > added a usergroup class/model and linked it through that. It does have > [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails) * * * Rails mailing list removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails) ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/5 "2005-12-27T18:27:10Z")
On 12/27/05, Bob H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > easier? Doesn’t this make adding localisation later a lot harder? If > you do add localisation what happens when you want to upgrade the > engine? Is there a way of localising stuff in Rails that makes this a > non-issue? Right. The login system is NOT the right place for localization to take place. MLR (multilingual Rails) is currently under revision, and should be coming out as a plugin soon. [http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails-core/2005-November/000198.html](http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails-core/2005-November/000198.html) Having localization happen in the login generator made it more difficult to localize the rest of the app. ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/6 "2005-12-27T19:15:27Z")
Just an update: That new version of MLR I was working on is now called Globalize, and is available as a plugin at: [http://globalize.diluvia.net/wiki](http://globalize.diluvia.net/wiki). Happy Holidays, Josh Harvey [http://shnoo.gr](http://shnoo.gr) Wilson B. wrote: > Right. The login system is NOT the right place for localization to take > place. > MLR (multilingual Rails) is currently under revision, and should be > coming out as a plugin soon. > [http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails-core/2005-November/000198.html](http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails-core/2005-November/000198.html) ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/7 "2005-12-27T17:26:54Z")
On Dec 27, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Daniel H. wrote: > Jake is right, there is quite a bit of activity regarding login and > role support around here. Taking that into account, I would like to > give a vote of support to login\_engine and user\_engine. Login\_engine > is basically Salted Hash Login Generator without the localization > (making initial setup a bit easier) Is this the reason localisation was dropped? To make setup a bit easier? Doesn’t this make adding localisation later a lot harder? If you do add localisation what happens when you want to upgrade the engine? Is there a way of localising stuff in Rails that makes this a non-issue? Thanks, Bob * * * Bob H. – blogs at [http://www.recursive.ca/hutch/](http://www.recursive.ca/hutch/) Recursive Design Inc. – [http://www.recursive.ca/](http://www.recursive.ca/) Raconteur – [http://www.raconteur.info/](http://www.raconteur.info/) ---
**Author:** ![frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@frank](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/frank)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-is-the-best-login-generator-to-use/51169/8 "2005-12-27T22:03:57Z")
Sorry. I actually knew that, my brain just stopped working before I finished the e-mail. P.S. - RubyForge project for the cross-platform Unicode gem coming soon; I haven’t forgotten. –Wilson.