# What do you think of this vps? **URL:** \ **Category:** Deployment\ **Created:** [March 13, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695 "2007-03-13T17:08:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/1 "2007-03-13T17:08:48Z")
Hi, i’ve to choose a good vps and i’ve found this: [http://www.adiungo.com/hosting/](http://www.adiungo.com/hosting/) what do you think (XHP) ? And about centos with rails and postgres what do you think? the problem maybe is that i don’t know centos, but i can learn it… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/2 "2007-03-13T17:13:06Z")
eric wrote: > Hi, i’ve to choose a good vps and i’ve found this: > [http://www.adiungo.com/hosting/](http://www.adiungo.com/hosting/) > what do you think (XHP) ? > And about centos with rails and postgres what do you think? > the problem maybe is that i don’t know centos, but i can learn it… 🙂 ops, fedora, not centos… ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/3 "2007-03-13T17:16:50Z")
One of the downsides of Postgres with the typical PHP stack is connection latency. We actually switched from MySQL to Postgres on [http://www.funadvice.com](http://www.funadvice.com) and the site was faster and more stable. Running Rails in production mode keeps a persistent connection open to Postgres for each mongrel running. So Postgres is a great choice for rails/mongrel applications. - Ericson S. [http://www.funadvice.com](http://www.funadvice.com) ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/4 "2007-03-13T17:25:53Z")
On 3/13/07, Ericson S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > One of the downsides of Postgres with the typical PHP stack is > connection latency. > > We actually switched from MySQL to Postgres on > [http://www.funadvice.com](http://www.funadvice.com) and the site was faster and more stable. > Running Rails in production mode keeps a persistent connection open to > Postgres for each mongrel running. Isn’t this usually how mysql and rails would work? Usually mysql will let a connection ‘sleep’ a certain amount of time, so the connection doesn’t need to be reopened for each request. You can configure the sleep time, but I would guess any normal setting like 60 seconds would be more then enough for the connection to hang out open for rails to continue to reuse. - Rob ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/5 "2007-03-13T17:35:55Z")
You are correct. But the original poster mentioned Postgresql, and I just thought I would share my experiences on a similar stack that he’s considering. I also use MySQL on other projects along with Postgresql. - Ericson S. ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/6 "2007-03-13T17:36:56Z")
On 3/13/07, Ericson S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > You are correct. But the original poster mentioned Postgresql, and I > just thought I would share my experiences on a similar stack that he’s > considering. > > I also use MySQL on other projects along with Postgresql. > > - Ericson S. My mistake then - I thought you were saying postgres would maintain a connection whereas mysql wouldn’t. thanks, Rob ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 8:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/7 "2007-03-14T08:58:19Z")
Hi Eric, if I were you I would do a quick comparison of this VPS with the VPSes at [http://www.railshostinginfo.com](http://www.railshostinginfo.com) . Most of the VPSes listed there are used quite a lot by Rails developers. Kind regards, Nick ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/8 "2007-03-13T17:31:55Z")
I just started using slicehost ([http://www.slicehost.com/](http://www.slicehost.com/)) where you can choose from the major linux distros (centos, debian, fedora, ubuntu, gentoo). A nice feature is that you can rebuild your slice and start from scratch (which I used like five times before getting it ‘just right’). I’m running centos with rails and mysql, I have recipe I can post if you like. Don’t know which is the best linux to use, RailsMachine use centos, EngineYard use gentoo, pick your poison. ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/9 "2007-03-14T18:40:44Z")
On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:21 AM, eric wrote: > > Kind regards, > > i asked to know if anyone have tryed it and if it’s good… 🙂 Eric- I haven’t tried the place you are talking about myself at all. But I did want to say that they don’t appear to use Xen, which means they use something like OpenVZ that allows the hosting provider to oversell resources. Xen does not allow for oversold resources and is the performance leader for vps’s Cheers- – Ezra Z. – Lead Rails Evangelist – removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid – Engine Y., Serious Rails Hosting – (866) 518-YARD (9273) ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/10 "2007-03-14T12:21:42Z")
Nick S. wrote: > Hi Eric, > > if I were you I would do a quick comparison of this VPS with the VPSes > at [http://www.railshostinginfo.com](http://www.railshostinginfo.com) . Most of the VPSes listed there are > used quite a lot by Rails developers. > > Kind regards, > > Nick hi, i’ve already seen it, but i didn’t found anything like that: - 786 mb ram (1536 burstable) - 30 gb hard disk - unlimited transfer for just 25$ (biennially) it’s quite cheep comparated with other vps on railshostinginfo i asked to know if anyone have tryed it and if it’s good… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 7:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/11 "2007-03-15T07:36:18Z")
Hey eric, It’s a bit more expensive, but we’ve been testing out a TextDrive / Joyent Accelerator to see what we can get out of it for hosting Rails apps. I’m pretty happy with it – we finished our testing tonight and we’re gracefully handling 50 connections per second on a moderately complex application, using Rails, Mongrel, nginx, and PostgreSQL. Of course, the big caveat is that we’re doing the benchmarks in off-peak hours where we can burst the whole box. 😉 There’s more info on my blog: [http://peat.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/rails-joyent-accelerator-benchmark/](http://peat.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/rails-joyent-accelerator-benchmark/) All that said, the biggest issue people seem to have with the Accelerators is that they’re running Solaris – it takes a little getting used to if you’re coming from the Linux/FreeBSD world. The most obvious differences are filesystem layout and package management, but since you’d be learning that for a new distro anyway, it’s not too big a hurdle. -Peat ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 10:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/12 "2007-03-15T10:24:45Z")
Ezra Z. wrote: > I haven’t tried the place you are talking about myself at all. But I > did want to say that they don’t appear to use Xen, which means they > use something like OpenVZ that allows the hosting provider to > oversell resources. Xen does not allow for oversold resources and is > the performance leader for vps’s they use virtuozzo… the problem is that with xen and the same price will be just 256 mb, 10gb and about 100gb transfer… do you think that this will be better than 786 mb? maybe the problem is that if anyone burst the ram he’ll takes part of “my” ram, but if it’s guaranteed i think it won’t go down 786mb…what do you think ? another cool (but more expensive) is slicehost: 1024slice 1024MB 40GB 400GB $70 and they use xen… ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/13 "2007-03-15T07:44:19Z")
Oh – I forgot to note that our configuration for the 50/req/sec is without any optimization what so ever, with a moderately complex Rails app that hits the database pretty well, and compresses content on the way out. Static content gets pitched at several hundred requests per second, if that provides another useful reference point. ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/14 "2007-03-16T13:03:58Z")
Tom F. wrote: > I wrote a blog post about how Open VZ defines memory - Virtuozzo is > the same base system. You can find that here: > [http://blog.craz8.com/articles/2006/12/25/openvz-redefines-ram/](http://blog.craz8.com/articles/2006/12/25/openvz-redefines-ram/) > > Xen based systems allow paging in your VM, so an app that allocates a > lot of memory and uses very little of it - Apache, MySQL et al - can > work with less Xen memory, but use a lot of Virtuozzo memory. > > So, in summary, a 768MB Virtuozzo system maybe similar to a 256MB Xen > system depending on load. > > That said, I’m running in a 512MB OpenVZ VM that runs very well at > [Quantact.com](http://Quantact.com). 256MB was too small for 4 mongrels (2 different apps), > MySQL, Monit, Nginx, Postfix. Adding Apache put me up to my ‘burst’ > limit too! ok, i think i’ll go with xen 🙂 thanks ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/15 "2007-03-16T03:56:15Z")
On Mar 15, 2:24 am, eric [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > burst the ram he’ll takes part of “my” ram, but if it’s guaranteed i > think it won’t go down 786mb…what do you think ? > another cool (but more expensive) is slicehost: > 1024slice 1024MB 40GB 400GB $70 > and they use xen… > > – > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. I wrote a blog post about how Open VZ defines memory - Virtuozzo is the same base system. You can find that here: [http://blog.craz8.com/articles/2006/12/25/openvz-redefines-ram/](http://blog.craz8.com/articles/2006/12/25/openvz-redefines-ram/) Xen based systems allow paging in your VM, so an app that allocates a lot of memory and uses very little of it - Apache, MySQL et al - can work with less Xen memory, but use a lot of Virtuozzo memory. So, in summary, a 768MB Virtuozzo system maybe similar to a 256MB Xen system depending on load. That said, I’m running in a 512MB OpenVZ VM that runs very well at [Quantact.com](http://Quantact.com). 256MB was too small for 4 mongrels (2 different apps), MySQL, Monit, Nginx, Postfix. Adding Apache put me up to my ‘burst’ limit too! ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/16 "2007-03-16T14:10:18Z")
Seem like good specs and pricing. But I also agree with the point about Virtuozzo and would suggest Xen. I’m with slicehost and they have been excellent with similar great prices. Also from what they’re website says Adiungo’s servers are located in Switzerland, I don’t know if thats an issue for you? ---
**Author:** ![eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@eric](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/eric)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-vps/88695/17 "2007-09-11T17:54:10Z")
Marston wrote: > Seem like good specs and pricing. But I also agree with the point > about Virtuozzo and would suggest Xen. I’m with slicehost and they > have been excellent with similar great prices. Also from what they’re > website says Adiungo’s servers are located in Switzerland, I don’t > know if thats an issue for you? agree, switzerland is a bit outside. I’m on slicehost too and the service has been effortlessly easy. they also seem to know what they’re doing which is a major plus! John.