# Two things on documentation

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809>\
**Category:** Ruby-Gnome 2\
**Created:** [December 22, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809 "2010-12-22T15:34:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/1 "2010-12-22T15:34:21Z")

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1. I would like for my GLib::File documentation to be put on the  
homepage. It’s been almost two months now.
2. I am sick and tired of seeing Internal Server Error when I try to  
browse the documentation.

Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/2 "2010-12-22T15:43:10Z")

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Hi,

In [AANLkTi=s+Sij5=removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:AANLkTi=s+Sij5=removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“[ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Wed, 22 Dec  
2010 15:33:34 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> 1. I would like for my GLib::File documentation to be put on the  
> homepage. Its been almost two months now.

Umm, could you show us what is your problem?  
I think that you can edit the Ruby-GNOME2 Wiki directly.

> 1. I am sick and tired of seeing Internal Server Error when I try to  
> browse the documentation.

Sorry… Do you have any idea to resolve the problem?

> Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

I’m sorry for your inconvenience…

–  
kou

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/3 "2010-12-22T16:47:43Z")

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2010/12/22 Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

> Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> > 1. I would like for my GLib::File documentation to be put on the  
> > homepage. It’s been almost two months now.

> Umm, could you show us what is your problem?  
> I think that you can edit the Ruby-GNOME2 Wiki directly.

[https://github.com/ruby-gnome2/doc/pulls](https://github.com/ruby-gnome2/doc/pulls)

Sorry for the exaggeration. it seems that it’s only been one and a half  
month.

> > 1. I am sick and tired of seeing Internal Server Error when I try to  
> > browse the documentation.

> Sorry… Do you have any idea to resolve the problem?

No. Am I the only one experiencing it? Otherwise I would file a  
support request with sourceforge.jp asking them to adjust the set-up.  
I’m guessing that the problem is due to the requests taking too long  
to process, perhaps as a result of Ruby not responding fast enough. I  
don’t know how the Wiki is set up, but if this can’t be resolved I  
feel that there’s little point in continuing to use this solution.

> > Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

> I’m sorry for your inconvenience…

It’s not your fault, but it makes me sad that no one seems to take an  
interest in it anymore. I’m not mainly talking about us developers,  
but users. Perhaps if we rename the project “Ruby on GNOME2” (like  
Ruby on Rails, if my joke wasn’t clear) people will come.

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/4 "2010-12-22T21:09:10Z")

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On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 15:33 +0100, Nikolai W. wrote:

> 1. I am sick and tired of seeing Internal Server Error when I try to  
> browse the documentation.
> 
> Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

Yes, I am using Ruby-GNOME2 and yes I have experienced the same issues  
as you with the wiki pages giving errors rather than the documentation.  
I found that if I get an error response then leaving that browser tab  
open and hitting refresh after a minute or two gives the correct result.  
So as you suggest it seems that some part of the wiki page rendering  
process is taking too long.

Regards  
Grant

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/5 "2010-12-23T14:40:10Z")

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2010/12/22 Grant McLean [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 15:33 +0100, Nikolai W. wrote:
> 
> > 1. I am sick and tired of seeing Internal Server Error when I try to  
> > browse the documentation.
> > 
> > Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

I also experience the Internal Server Error and I still use ruby-gnome2.

–  
Vincent C.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/6 "2010-12-27T14:19:33Z")

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Hi,

In [AANLkTi=removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:AANLkTi=removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Wed, 22  
Dec 2010 16:47:05 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Sorry for the exaggeration. it seems that its only been one and a half month.

I’ve merged and pushed it to ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp.  
Thanks!!! and sorry for my late response…

> feel that theres little point in continuing to use this solution.  
> I understand sf.jp is too poor response when I checked  
> uploaded your documents.

OK. We need to move to other hosting service that has more  
fast response. But where? Heroku? (Hiki is CGI or Rack  
application.)

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/7 "2010-12-25T01:17:39Z")

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Hi,

In [AANLkTi=removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:AANLkTi=removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Wed, 22  
Dec 2010 16:47:05 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> 2010/12/22 Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):
> 
> > Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> 
> > > 1. I would like for my GLib::File documentation to be put on the  
> > > homepage. Its been almost two months now.
> 
> > Umm, could you show us what is your problem?  
> > I think that you can edit the Ruby-GNOME2 Wiki directly.
> 
> [Pull requests · ruby-gnome/doc · GitHub](https://github.com/ruby-gnome2/doc/pulls)

I’m so sorry… I missed it…  
I’ll pull it but please wait a few weeks. I can’t work on  
Ruby-GNOME2 for a few weeks…

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/8 "2011-01-07T15:02:12Z")

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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 21:47, Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> 2010/12/27 Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

> Hiki syntax to Markdown. It would, however, place less work on us in  
> the long run, as GitHub manages all the other functionality.

So, what’s your take on this?

I am willing to help out, but under current conditions I feel that  
working with Ruby-GNOME2 is both pointless and frustrating. Pointless  
because no one seems to care about Ruby-GNOME2 and frustrating because  
I’ve invested so much time into it and there’s no active discussion on  
this mailing list and management doesn’t seem to have enough time to  
manage and important topics just linger indefinitely without anyone  
making any decisions.

Kouhei, I realize that you manage Ruby-GNOME2 in your spare time, but  
the current amount of time you have available just doesn’t seem to be  
enough. What are your near term plans for Ruby-GNOME2? What are your  
long term plans? Are you going to be devoting more time in the  
future?

Anyway, I suggest that we move to GitHub as soon as possible. We do  
this by writing a script that converts the current Hiki syntax to  
Markdown. That shouldn’t be too difficult. The one problem I see is  
the automatic linking of methods in text to their definition, but it  
should be solvable.

We drop all languages except English. Looking at the dates of the  
most recent updates to the other languages, no one cares about  
anything except English (though no one seems to care very much for  
English either).

We need more people to take an interest in Ruby-GNOME2 if it’s going  
to survive. This requires us to have a place where people can go to  
become interested.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/9 "2010-12-27T21:48:29Z")

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2010/12/27 Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

> Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> > [Pull requests · ruby-gnome/doc · GitHub](https://github.com/ruby-gnome2/doc/pulls)

> I’ve merged and pushed it to ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp.  
> Thanks!!! and sorry for my late response…

I’ve added a front page:

[http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?Ruby%2FGIO](http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?Ruby%2FGIO)

There are some bugs in the documentation syntax and some broken links,  
but I don’t have time to fix them right now. I’ll fix them soon.

Also, it seems that the import didn’t import the UTF-8 contained in  
the documents correctly. Is this easily corrected? See, for example,

[http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?GLib%3A%3AFile](http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?GLib%3A%3AFile)

> I understand sf.jp is too poor response when I checked  
> uploaded your documents.
> 
> OK. We need to move to other hosting service that has more  
> fast response. But where? Heroku? (Hiki is CGI or Rack  
> application.)

Hm. I have no good suggestion. One solution would be to convert it  
to a GitHub Wiki, see

> **[Making GitHub More Open: Git-backed Wikis](https://github.blog/news-insights/the-library/making-github-more-open-git-backed-wikis/)**
>
> We’ve been hearing a lot of great feedback regarding our current wiki system. Today, we’re launching the first phase in a rollout of a completely rewritten Git-backed wiki system to…

but that would require some work in writing a script to convert the  
Hiki syntax to Markdown. It would, however, place less work on us in  
the long run, as GitHub manages all the other functionality.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/10 "2011-01-07T15:38:35Z")

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Hi,

In [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Fri, 7 Jan  
2011 15:01:39 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> > [Making GitHub More Open: Git-backed Wikis - The GitHub Blog](https://github.com/blog/699-making-github-more-open-git-backed-wikis)
> > 
> > but that would require some work in writing a script to convert the  
> > Hiki syntax to Markdown. It would, however, place less work on us in  
> > the long run, as GitHub manages all the other functionality.
> 
> So, whats your take on this?

I don’t think it’s good idea but I don’t say strong “no”  
because I don’t have time for it as you say.

> I am willing to help out, but under current conditions I feel that  
> working with Ruby-GNOME2 is both pointless and frustrating. Pointless  
> because no one seems to care about Ruby-GNOME2 and frustrating because  
> Ive invested so much time into it and theres no active discussion on  
> this mailing list and management doesnt seem to have enough time to  
> manage and important topics just linger indefinitely without anyone  
> making any decisions.

I’m sorry for your invenience.

> Kouhei, I realize that you manage Ruby-GNOME2 in your spare time, but  
> the current amount of time you have available just doesnt seem to be  
> enough. What are your near term plans for Ruby-GNOME2? What are your  
> long term plans? Are you going to be devoting more time in the  
> future?

Near term plan: We releae Ruby-GNOME2 1.0.0. It requires gem  
support for all packages.  
Long term plan: We support GTK+ 3.

> Anyway, I suggest that we move to GitHub as soon as possible. We do  
> this by writing a script that converts the current Hiki syntax to  
> Markdown. That shouldnt be too difficult. The one problem I see is  
> the automatic linking of methods in text to their definition, but it  
> should be solvable.

We have some things to do for moving our repository. It don’  
just require Subversion to git migration. e.g. We have  
release script that packages, uploads, announces and tags a  
new release. We need to migrate it too. I can’t list all  
works about our reposity migration but other works will  
exist.

If you can do those works I will say “we move to GitHub.”.  
Could you do it? If your answer is yes, I’ll add you to  
Ruby-GNOME2 organizer on GitHub.

> We drop all languages except English. Looking at the dates of the  
> most recent updates to the other languages, no one cares about  
> anything except English (though no one seems to care very much for  
> English either).

I can’t complain.

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/11 "2011-02-09T23:36:38Z")

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2010/12/27 Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

> I understand sf.jp is too poor response when I checked  
> uploaded your documents.
> 
> OK. We need to move to other hosting service that has more  
> fast response. But where? Heroku? (Hiki is CGI or Rack  
> application.)

How about moving back to [sf.net](http://sf.net)? I just checked it out and it seems  
that they support Ruby now:

[http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project](http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project) web

It could be worth a try. Sf.jp seems to be getting worse.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/12 "2011-02-16T16:42:26Z")

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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 23:36, Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> that they support Ruby now:
> 
> [http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project](http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project) web
> 
> It could be worth a try. Sf.jp seems to be getting worse.

Kouhei, what do you think about this? Is it viable?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/13 "2011-01-08T01:56:34Z")

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Hmmm… I don’t really agree with Nikolai, but since  
I don’t do any development on Ruby-Gnome2 I can  
hardly complain. I feel like I should help, but I have  
a hard enough time just working on my own application.

It is true that Ruby-Gnome2 is not very popular. But then  
what other GUI libraries are more popular? Ruby itself  
is not popular for writing desktop applications. I started  
using Ruby-Gnome2 because I already knew GTK+ (and  
in fact, GTK+ is the only thing my application needs).  
But more and more I need to distribute my application on  
Windows and Mac. It is not easy to do this with Ruby-Gnome2.  
So I started looking at other GUI toolkits. I can’t see  
any other toolkit that is substantially better or more popular.

We can say that development isn’t fast enough. We can  
say that we don’t have enough time to do what we want.  
But until Ruby itself is more popular for desktop  
applications, we aren’t going to get any more developers.  
What we have is what we have.

So my advice is to reduce the scope of development.  
I only use GTK+ so I am biased. But I don’t think  
we need to do everything. Dropping language support  
is a good idea. Dropping other things might make  
life easier too. If you have too many things to do, then  
usually it’s best to stop doing so many things rather than  
trying to do things faster.

```
   My 2 cents,
      MikeC
```

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Hi,

Sorry for my late response.

In [AANLkTi=9JdupNKjjMuAiUMG0C16X25za=gKRF=removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:AANLkTi=9JdupNKjjMuAiUMG0C16X25za=gKRF=removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Wed, 16  
Feb 2011 16:41:29 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> > How about moving back to [sf.net](http://sf.net)? I just checked it out and it seems  
> > that they support Ruby now:
> > 
> > [http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project](http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project) web
> > 
> > It could be worth a try. Sf.jp seems to be getting worse.
> 
> Kouhei, what do you think about this? Is it viable?

I don’t know that it solve the problem because I don’t know  
[SF.net](http://SF.net)’s Web server spec. At least [SF.net](http://SF.net)’s shell service is  
slow…

I’m thinking about a solution. It is that we convert Hiki  
CGI to static HTMLs and serves only statis HTMLs. It will  
improve performance but we can’t edit documents from Web.

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/15 "2011-02-16T16:58:07Z")

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Hi,

I do not know how the API documentation and the hiki are maintained  
currently,  
but how about keeping the API docs in rdoc? That way the API docs could  
be distributed with the gems, rbbr would always be up to date, and an  
API documentation web page could be generated(even daily).  
The rest of the current page(tricks, howtos, recommended behaviors)  
could be kept in a wiki.  
Would that be a too harsh turn?

Regards,  
Balint

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Hi!

Thank you for your response.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 13:25, Kouhei S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I don’t know that it solve the problem because I don’t know  
> [SF.net](http://SF.net)’s Web server spec. At least [SF.net](http://SF.net)’s shell service is  
> slow…
> 
> I’m thinking about a solution. It is that we convert Hiki  
> CGI to static HTMLs and serves only statis HTMLs. It will  
> improve performance but we can’t edit documents from Web.

OK, that’s one solution that would help.

Something that would be better in the long run, but requires a lot of  
work, is implementing Balint’s suggestion. If we move the  
documentation to the .c files and statically generate them we can both  
put them on the web and easily distribute them with the gems. It  
would also be a lot easier to document new functionality, as it would  
all be in one place.

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Hi,

In [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Wed, 16  
Feb 2011 17:57:05 +0200,  
Dobai-Pataky B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I do not know how the API documentation and the hiki are maintained currently,  
> but how about keeping the API docs in rdoc? That way the API docs could be  
> distributed with the gems, rbbr would always be up to date, and an API  
> documentation web page could be generated(even daily).  
> The rest of the current page(tricks, howtos, recommended behaviors) could be  
> kept in a wiki.  
> Would that be a too harsh turn?

Masaaki A. is suggesting that we convert the API  
documentation to YARD (\*) (not RDoc). If he creates a convert  
script and possible migration steps, we will use YARD.

(\*) [http://yardoc.org/](http://yardoc.org/)

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/18 "2011-02-20T21:48:57Z")

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> Is anyone beside me actually using Ruby-GNOME2 anymore?

Yes, I am still using it and I like Gtk/Gnome (and I still love Ruby)

🙂

My problem is, I don’t know much about C so I can not help with coding  
in C.

I do know Ruby and I can try to help a little bit here and there with  
documentation on the website (kou gave me the password a few years ago)

If anyone needs something you can also send me an email to  
[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) - I check it frequently.

GTK 3 looks really great, I love the syntax for CSS-like support. I hope  
that Ruby-Gnome can continue, I want to use Ruby and not Python. 🙂

The Toolkits seem to struggle in general right now - FOX/FXRuby is dead,  
Qt has the problem with Nokia.

Resources are scarce but I want to say that I always loved the  
documentation of the ruby-gnome project. It helped me a LOT build a  
small widget base which I use locally in various of my projects.

Good documentation is very important. I can try to help with  
documentation.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/19 "2011-02-17T13:56:21Z")

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Hi,

In [AANLkTi=removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:AANLkTi=removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
“Re: [ruby-gnome2-devel-en] Two things on documentation” on Thu, 17  
Feb 2011 13:33:22 +0100,  
Nikolai W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> OK, that’s one solution that would help.
> 
> Something that would be better in the long run, but requires a lot of  
> work, is implementing Balint’s suggestion. If we move the  
> documentation to the .c files and statically generate them we can both  
> put them on the web and easily distribute them with the gems. It  
> would also be a lot easier to document new functionality, as it would  
> all be in one place.

I know that the solution I’m thinking is just a workaround.  
We need a easy to maintain documentation system. Balint’s  
suggestion, Masaaki A.'s suggestion or your suggestion  
will be good candidates. We need not only a suggestion but  
also migration steps.

## Thanks,

kou

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/two-things-on-documentation/200809/20 "2011-02-23T01:51:57Z")

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hey all -

another big cheer for ruby-gnome2… wish i could help, but i sadly  
don’t have the C (or much of any other programming but ruby) know-how.  
what i can offer is a huge “thank you” to all of you that are working on  
documentation, and hopefully some inspiration to continue. there ARE  
people using it, and we really appreciate your effort…

keep up the good work!

thanks again -

-jk

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