# Translation in translationvariable **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails I18n\ **Created:** [November 26, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689 "2010-11-26T13:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dobai-Pataky\_BSSSSl](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/77aa72/32.png) [@Dobai-Pataky\_BSSSSl](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Dobai-Pataky_BSSSSl)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/1 "2010-11-26T13:04:44Z")
Hello, i need some help I want to use a translation variable in neu translation. something like this code: de: namespace: “Kunde” new: headline: “Kunden anlegen” submit: “t(namespace) anlegen” please help me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philipjkim)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/2 "2010-11-26T16:31:43Z")
Hey Philip, tl;dr: you probably don’t wanna do it. DRY is a principle that applies to code but not translations. When we abstract our code then we are the ones who are in control of applying general rules to it. But when it comes to translations we must leave your translators in control and therefor don’t want to abstract translations. The reason for that is that 1. there aren’t that many general rules that apply to language, all of the time, spoken languages have tons of exceptions for probably any rule you’d name 2. even if there are such rules we as developers don’t know them - that’s why there are translators Therefor one should allow translators to translate every single string the way they want - even if there’s tons of duplication then. One practical example where what you’re trying to do could potentially crash on the floor is when your :namespace translation needs to be inflected when it’s interpolated (inserted) into this particular translation for :submit in _this particular_ context on your page. That said, there are some situations where even Rails does something similar. You can do it like this: de: new: submit: “%{namespace} anlegen” and then I18n.t(:‘new.submit’, :namespace =\> I18n.t(:namespace)) ---
**Author:** ![philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philipjkim)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/3 "2010-11-26T18:04:26Z")
Hey Sven, thanks a lot 😃 I had just another problem. How to act with partials in translations? especially with the submit button: here my problem: # \_form.html.erb \<%= form\_for(@customer) do |f| %\> #some code \<%= f.submit t(“new.submit”) %\> \<% end %\> #locales/views/customers/de.yml de: new: headline: “Kunden anlegen” submit: “Kunden anlegen” edit: headline: “Kunden bearbeiten” submit: “Kunden speichern” How to set the buttons text depents on edit an new \<%= f.submit t(“submit”) %\> thanks to you! Philip 2010/11/26 Sven F. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) ---
**Author:** ![philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philipjkim)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/4 "2010-11-27T08:00:46Z")
Have you read i18n guide [Internationalization (I18n) — Ruby on Rails Guides](http://guides.rubyonrails.org/i18n.html) ?🙂 2010/11/26 Philip K. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid): > submit: “t(namespace) anlegen” > > please help me 😃 > > – > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. > “rails-i18n” group. > To post to this group, send email to [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) > . > For more options, visit this group at > [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philipjkim)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/5 "2010-11-26T18:57:04Z")
Just like Krzysztof I’d recommend checking out the Rails guide on Internationalization. IIRC it answers both of the questions you’ve asked. You might want to check out the Rails “lazy” translation helper: t(’.submit’) Notice the dot at the beginning of the key. This dot is expanded to the current view path, e.g. on “customers/\_form” this key becomes :‘customers.form.submit’ ---
**Author:** ![philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f14d63/32.png) [@philipjkim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philipjkim)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/translation-in-translationvariable/199689/6 "2012-03-26T14:41:51Z")
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