# Tools to improve testing **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [March 29, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062 "2006-03-29T17:18:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Imobach_GonzSSSSlez)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062/1 "2006-03-29T17:18:55Z")
Hi all, An easy one: what tools do you use to improve testing? I’ve read some about ZenTest and looks very nice. But I’d like to hear more about tools (or frameworks) to make Ruby programmers happy even when writing tests (I love to have tests, but I hate write them 😉 ). Any recommendation? Thank in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Imobach_GonzSSSSlez)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062/2 "2006-03-29T17:34:17Z")
autotest and unit diff (both in ZenTest) are awesome. The big thing is just procedural – getting used to it. I’ve been writing some code with Sean C., and writing it in a Ping Pong style has been great. Sean will write a test, check it in, and let me know. Then I need to get his test to pass, write a new test, check it in and let him know. Writing code this way has been a blast (it’s more like playing a game than working on a project). I’m convinced it would be even more fun if Sean and I were pairing in person instead of by email. The comments I’ve heard from others would seem to bear this out. Good luck, and have fun with testing. ---
**Author:** ![Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Imobach_GonzSSSSlez)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062/3 "2006-03-29T23:27:21Z")
On 3/29/06, chiaro scuro [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I have done PingPong programming in the past using the collaborative > editor moonedit. it’s really cool, even if it limits you to a single > text file. gobby is another promising one. Sean and I have not tried a multi-user editor yet, though we’ve kicked the idea around. So far, we’ve coordinated by by svn. Does the collaborative editor allow you to communicate well enough, or do you supplement with IM/irc/something? > A good challenge would be to make FreeRIDE multiuser… hmm, if that happens I might have to look at using FreeRIDE. ---
**Author:** ![Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Imobach_GonzSSSSlez)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062/4 "2006-03-29T23:12:10Z")
I have done PingPong programming in the past using the collaborative editor moonedit. it’s really cool, even if it limits you to a single text file. gobby is another promising one. A good challenge would be to make FreeRIDE multiuser… On 3/29/06, pat eyler [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Writing code this way has been a blast (it’s more like playing a > game than working on a project). I’m convinced it would be > even more fun if Sean and I were pairing in person instead of > by email. The comments I’ve heard from others would seem > to bear this out. > > Good luck, and have fun with testing. ## Chiaroscuro Liquid Development: [http://liquiddevelopment.blogspot.com/](http://liquiddevelopment.blogspot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Imobach\_GonzSSSSlez](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Imobach_GonzSSSSlez)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 12:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/tools-to-improve-testing/90062/5 "2006-03-30T00:00:38Z")
On 3/29/06, pat eyler [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Sean and I have not tried a multi-user editor yet, though we’ve kicked > the idea around. So far, we’ve coordinated by by svn. We communicated by code 🙂 Strange enough it seemed to work very well… if the Intent of my tests waasn’t clear, I could see my partner esitate with his code… and I started making the tests more expressive. It’s difficult to explain it. It must be tried 🙂 Moonedit, although it looks oldish, is very effective and it also has a very cool history replay feature that allows you to playback the whole session. If you download moonedit I can send you some example session. > > A good challenge would be to make FreeRIDE multiuser… > > hmm, if that happens I might have to look at using FreeRIDE. If you could make it multiuser it would be fantastic 🙂 The code of FreeRIDE is very clean and based on a plugin architecture.