# Time to rewrite DBMS, says Ingres founder

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**Created:** [February 19, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/time-to-rewrite-dbms-says-ingres-founder/129532 "2008-02-19T11:17:31Z")\
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> **[Time to rewrite DBMS, says Ingres founder](https://www.theregister.com/2008/02/18/stonebraker_dbms_outdated/)**
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> Abandon SQL

Stonebraker and his group also advocate abandoning SQL because they see no need for a separate data manipulation language. Data manipulation, they said, can be performed with other tasks using languages such as Ruby.

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