# The price of a modern list architecture? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [July 19, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799 "2010-07-19T01:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/1 "2010-07-19T01:16:01Z")
[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.forth/browse\_thread/thread/ef39e59023a8ae4c/9eb9f6b99139a5df#9eb9f6b99139a5df](http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.forth/browse_thread/thread/ef39e59023a8ae4c/9eb9f6b99139a5df#9eb9f6b99139a5df) Simple really, if Lisp’s (X , Y) construct should have limits placed on assignment of Y for translation lookaside buffer vitual memory mapping thrashing and for easier garbage collection (provable), then are there any structures in Ruby that may be better adapted such that kernal poijnters may be used for faster code, and possibly extra memory bandwidth for no garbage collector gc stalls and faster code? I wish to call this a constrafucation. Cheers Jacko ---
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/2 "2010-07-19T13:37:39Z")
On 19 Jul 2010, at 00:15, Jacko wrote: > [http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.forth/browse\_thread/thread/ef39e59023a8ae4c/9eb9f6b99139a5df#9eb9f6b99139a5df](http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.forth/browse_thread/thread/ef39e59023a8ae4c/9eb9f6b99139a5df#9eb9f6b99139a5df) I remember now why I stopped reading CLF… > Simple really, if Lisp’s (X , Y) construct should have limits placed > on assignment of Y for translation lookaside buffer vitual memory > mapping thrashing and for easier garbage collection (provable), then > are there any structures in Ruby that may be better adapted such that > kernal poijnters may be used for faster code, and possibly extra > memory bandwidth for no garbage collector gc stalls and faster code? There could well be places in a Ruby runtime where such an approach would be possible although that may not be true for any of the current implementations. Do you have a link through to the original articles/sites describing this modification to Lisp along with some code examples? Ellie ## Eleanor McHugh Games With Brains [http://feyeleanor.tel](http://feyeleanor.tel) raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds\_to? :reason ---
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/3 "2010-07-19T14:20:23Z")
On 19 July, 12:22, Eleanor McHugh [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > kernal poijnters may be used for faster code, and possibly extra > > * * * > > raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds\_to? :reason Not yet, currently getting feedback on a multitude of languages to see what ‘structures’ would need to be converted. As yet the structures have not been converted as it is a research initiative on if a new language would have to be created, an existant language could be adapted, or all or many languages could be fed through code translators. ---
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/4 "2010-07-19T18:37:31Z")
There’s a section started on [http://sites.google.com/site/jackokring](http://sites.google.com/site/jackokring) and a you may see other things are happening too. Any feedback would be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/5 "2010-07-19T16:58:32Z")
On 19 Jul 2010, at 13:20, Jacko wrote: > Not yet, currently getting feedback on a multitude of languages to see > what ‘structures’ would need to be converted. As yet the structures > have not been converted as it is a research initiative on if a new > language would have to be created, an existant language could be > adapted, or all or many languages could be fed through code > translators. Well if you need a testbed at some point let me know, I have a virtual machine library in development as part of my effort to port Ruby to Go and would be happy to try your ideas out. Ellie ## Eleanor McHugh Games With Brains [http://feyeleanor.tel](http://feyeleanor.tel) raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds\_to? :reason ---
**Author:** ![Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Jacko](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jacko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/the-price-of-a-modern-list-architecture/191799/6 "2010-07-19T22:10:03Z")
On 19 Jul 2010, at 17:35, Jacko wrote: > There’s a section started on [http://sites.google.com/site/jackokring](http://sites.google.com/site/jackokring) > and a you may see other things are happening too. Any feedback would > be fine. Thanks 🙂 Ellie ## Eleanor McHugh Games With Brains [http://feyeleanor.tel](http://feyeleanor.tel) raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds\_to? :reason