# Synthesizable Frequencies for WBX?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565>\
**Category:** GNU Radio\
**Created:** [April 8, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565 "2011-04-08T19:26:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565/1 "2011-04-08T19:26:40Z")

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Hello G.s,

I am experiencing some problems in transmitting/receiving at frequencies  
around 900MHz for WBX board. While, I am able to do so cleanly at  
900MHz, other center frequencies are not.

The signal bandwidth : 50 KHz  
The sampling frequency: 200 KHz

I have tried 901MHz , 900.1MHz, 910MHz and many others but the received  
signal appears to be wider than it should be. The signal level is higher  
than -40dbm over the total 200 KHz range when these frequencies are  
used.

The only frequencies I was able to use with no problems are 900MHz, 1.8  
GHz , 890MHz, 880MHz.

What could be the problem? I have tried to use “tune\_request\_t” in the  
target frequency paramter but it gave similar bad results . Any  
pointers?

Kind regards,  
Yahia Tachwali

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**Author:** ![TachwaliS\_Yahia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TachwaliS\_Yahia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/TachwaliS_Yahia)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565/2 "2011-04-08T19:52:37Z")

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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Tachwali, Yahia [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> Hello G.s,
> 
> I am experiencing some problems in transmitting/receiving at frequencies  
> around 900MHz for WBX board. While, I am able to do so cleanly at  
> 900MHz, other center frequencies are not.
> 
> The signal bandwidth : 50 KHz  
> The sampling frequency: 200 KHz

What signal amplitude?  
What gain setting?  
Which antenna port?

> I have tried 901MHz , 900.1MHz, 910MHz and many others but the received  
> signal appears to be wider than it should be. The signal level is higher than  
> -40dbm over the total 200 KHz range when these frequencies are used.

This usually indicates a sample rate mismatch in your flowgraph, if  
you post an example to replicate your problem, it will be easier to  
help you.

> The only frequencies I was able to use with no problems are 900MHz,  
> 1.8 GHz , 890MHz, 880MHz.
> 
> What could be the problem? I have tried to use “tune\_request\_t” in the target  
> frequency paramter but it gave similar bad results . Any pointers?

What parameters did you give to the tune\_request\_t?

Have you looked at the tune\_result\_t returned by set\_center\_freq?

Jason

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**Author:** ![TachwaliS\_Yahia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@TachwaliS\_Yahia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/TachwaliS_Yahia)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565/3 "2011-04-08T21:28:53Z")

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Hello Jason,

Thank you for the instant reply. Here are the responses to your  
question:

The transceiver set-up is really basic:

## TX

Random src → DQPSK MOD → Pulse Shape → UHD SINK

## RX

UHD SOURCE → FFT block

so,

Signal amplitude? 1  
Gain setting? 0dB at TX and RX sides  
Antenna port? TX: TX/RX RX: RX2

I believe it is a mis-sampling mismatch. I am using 4 samples per  
symbol. I should add that this problem appears to be ONLY at the TX  
side. I am able to see a clean signal when the TX is at 900MHz and RX is  
900.050MHz. But not the other way around.

Also, as far as the parameters go: if I want to access 900.05MHz I pass  
to tune\_request\_t :  
target frequency = 900M  
LO freq = 50K

However, the result is: bad signal (i can see the peak at the center  
frequency expected (900.05MHz) but the bandwidth is wide in the same  
manner as if I set the center frequency manually at 900.05 rather than  
using tune\_request\_t.

I am pretty sure that the upsampling in FPGA is messed up or the  
upconversion setting in the transmitter has to be done in different way.  
Any advice please?

Kind regards,  
Yahia Tachwali

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From: Jason A. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid]  
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:45 PM  
To: Tachwali, Yahia  
Cc: [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Synthesizable Frequencies for WBX?

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Tachwali, Yahia [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> Hello G.s,
> 
> I am experiencing some problems in transmitting/receiving at frequencies  
> around 900MHz for WBX board. While, I am able to do so cleanly at  
> 900MHz, other center frequencies are not.
> 
> The signal bandwidth : 50 KHz  
> The sampling frequency: 200 KHz

What signal amplitude?  
What gain setting?  
Which antenna port?

> I have tried 901MHz , 900.1MHz, 910MHz and many others but the received  
> signal appears to be wider than it should be. The signal level is higher than  
> -40dbm over the total 200 KHz range when these frequencies are used.

This usually indicates a sample rate mismatch in your flowgraph, if  
you post an example to replicate your problem, it will be easier to  
help you.

> The only frequencies I was able to use with no problems are 900MHz,  
> 1.8 GHz , 890MHz, 880MHz.
> 
> What could be the problem? I have tried to use “tune\_request\_t” in the target  
> frequency paramter but it gave similar bad results . Any pointers?

What parameters did you give to the tune\_request\_t?

Have you looked at the tune\_result\_t returned by set\_center\_freq?

Jason

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/synthesizable-frequencies-for-wbx/205565/4 "2011-04-13T03:44:21Z")

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Yahia Tachwali,

If you send me your actual .grc or .py file, it will be easier to help  
you, because I think you may have different sample rates set on  
different blocks.

Also, are you cabling TX directly into RX?

Do you have any screen shots of the good and bad scenarios?

Jason
