# Streamlined framework - Maturity? Background? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [August 20, 2006, 7:33am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653 "2006-08-20T07:33:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 7:33am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/1 "2006-08-20T07:33:39Z")
Hi, Just found and started to look at Streamlined ([http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/](http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/)). It looks very interesting however I couldn’t find a mailing list or contact me link. Just wondering: [1] How mature is Streamlined? What sort of uptake does it have? [2] It it opensource? [3] Do people see it as a strategic add on to Rails at all (i.e. to complement rather than compete with rails)? Tks [PS My main aim was trying to select an authentication/authorisation approach of which someone suggested to look at Streamlined, but it seems to do much more than this.] ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 10:55am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/2 "2006-08-20T10:55:04Z")
Greg H. wrote: > Hi, > > Just found and started to look at Streamlined > ([http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/](http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/)). It looks very interesting > however I couldn’t find a mailing list or contact me link. Just Perhaps leave a comment against one of their blog articles. > wondering: > > [1] How mature is Streamlined? What sort of uptake does it have? It was demoed at Railsconf in July and released in August. > [2] It it opensource? Yes. > [3] Do people see it as a strategic add on to Rails at all (i.e. to > complement rather than compete with rails)? Complements. ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/3 "2006-08-20T22:09:30Z")
Greg, It is fairly immature (pre-alpha). It is supposedly open source but they haven’t released it in source form yet (at least last time I checked). It is definitely complementary to rails. It relies on the rails framework to function. It will probably never be included in rails itself though as I doubt “better scaffolding” would ever be viewed as part of the core. I would love it if I was someday proved wrong on this though. Jon On 8/19/06, Greg H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > – > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). > > > – Jon W. removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/4 "2006-08-20T22:47:34Z")
There is a list of auto admin on this site: [http://streamlinedframework.net/articles/2006/08/17/the-auto-admin-ecosystem](http://streamlinedframework.net/articles/2006/08/17/the-auto-admin-ecosystem) * * * From: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [[mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)] On Behalf Of Jon W. Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:45 PM To: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid Subject: [Rails] Re: Streamlined framework - Maturity? Background? Greg, It is fairly immature (pre-alpha). It is supposedly open source but they haven’t released it in source form yet (at least last time I checked). It is definitely complementary to rails. It relies on the rails framework to function. It will probably never be included in rails itself though as I doubt “better scaffolding” would ever be viewed as part of the core. I would love it if I was someday proved wrong on this though. Jon On 8/19/06, Greg H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: Hi, Just found and started to look at Streamlined ([http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/](http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/)). It looks very interesting however I couldn’t find a mailing list or contact me link. Just wondering: [1] How mature is Streamlined? What sort of uptake does it have? [2] It it opensource? [3] Do people see it as a strategic add on to Rails at all (i.e. to complement rather than compete with rails)? Tks [PS My main aim was trying to select an authentication/authorisation approach of which someone suggested to look at Streamlined, but it seems to do much more than this.] – Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). – Jon W. removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 5:30am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/5 "2006-08-21T05:30:04Z")
thanks for the feedback to date guys BTW - I was thinking of for my immediate user management needs looking at use of ActiveRBAC (i.e. not chewing off too much re 3rd party frameworks) for the moment. Any comments on this in relation to a potential option of going to Streamlined for this would be appreciated? ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/6 "2006-08-20T23:09:35Z")
Greg H. wrote: > Hi, > > Just found and started to look at Streamlined > ([http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/](http://streamlined.relevancellc.com/)). It looks very interesting > however I couldn’t find a mailing list or contact me link. From their blog, it appears you can contact the developers via streamlined AT relevancellc DOT com > Just wondering: > > [1] How mature is Streamlined? What sort of uptake does it have? It is very new. DHH has just commented favourably on it, here: > **[Streamlined: Taking admins beyond scaffolding](https://rubyonrails.org/2006/8/16/streamlined-taking-admins-beyond-scaffolding)** > > Justin Gehtland and Stuart Halloway has been moving along at a rapid pace on Streamlined since its unveiling at RailsConf in June. There’s now a public repository with the code available and they’ve put together a convincing screencast of its use.I... Comments to his blog post were critical of the current look and feel, and the Streamlined team is addressing this by working with the developer of the Ajax scaffold. If I remember correctly, Dave T. also mentioned Streamlined in his RailsConf keynote. He highlighted three directions in which he felt Rails needed to improve, one of which was high-quality scaffolding, and he mentioned Streamlined as a candidate for this. The authors of Streamlined are well-respected people who have come to Ruby and Rails from the “Better, Faster Lighter Java” movement (Justin Gehtland co-wrote the book of that name with Bruce Tate). [http://www.relevancellc.com/main/about](http://www.relevancellc.com/main/about) So I would say: watch it carefully, try it out, if you like it and want it to move faster or in a particular direction, see if you can contribute. > [2] It it opensource? Yes, MIT license: [http://svn.streamlinedframework.org:8079/streamlined/MIT-LICENSE](http://svn.streamlinedframework.org:8079/streamlined/MIT-LICENSE) (Note that the subversion repository is now accessible, despite what it says on the download page) > [3] Do people see it as a strategic add on to Rails at all (i.e. to > complement rather than compete with rails)? Yes, it adds to Rails rather than competing with it. regards Justin F. ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@greg](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/streamlined-framework-maturity-background/65653/7 "2006-08-21T05:44:05Z")
Greetings Greg - For my uses, I see this framework being useful to (quickly) pull together table editing for my (internal) administrators - where I’m not concerned so much with a particular look, but ease of data access. Jodi