# State of the RadiantCMS UI **URL:** \ **Category:** Radiant CMS\ **Created:** [May 29, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002 "2008-05-29T21:25:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/1 "2008-05-29T21:25:20Z")
We need a cleaner “modify” solution for the admin page-tree. Maybe a javascript drop-down with edit, delete and other page-tree-based extensions like copy/move (with the exception of the reorder extension). As it stands, after installing 2 or more extensions that add links adjacent to the “modify” column, things start getting cluttered and the “lowest-common-resolution” goes out the window? What are some ideas to clean it up or streamline the “modify” column? ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/2 "2008-05-29T22:25:46Z")
On May 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Arik J. wrote: > What are some ideas to clean it up or streamline the “modify” column? We’ve been playing with some ideas on github. Have a look at the new “pages” mockups: [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade) – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/3 "2008-05-29T22:26:57Z")
did you see new mockups on github? you gotta take a look at: [http://github.com/seancribbs/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade](http://github.com/seancribbs/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/4 "2008-05-29T22:28:42Z")
😃 ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/5 "2008-05-29T22:34:21Z")
This. is. awesome!! Can’t say I’m in love with the gratuitous use of gradiants, but seriously this is great start! I love it! I think 0.7 will certainly change the face and set the pace for rails-based content management systems. John W. Long wrote: > On May 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Arik J. wrote: > > > What are some ideas to clean it up or streamline the “modify” column? > > We’ve been playing with some ideas on github. Have a look at the new > “pages” mockups: > > [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade) > > – > John L. > [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/6 "2008-05-29T23:12:36Z")
John W. Long wrote: > We’ve been playing with some ideas on github. Have a look at the new > “pages” mockups: > > [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade) Those are looking nice! I like these styles the best because they keep all of the mouse actions on the left side of the screen instead of splitting ‘edit page’ on the left and ‘everything else’ on the right: [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/pages-2.png](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/pages-2.png) [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/pages-5.png](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/pages-5.png) The idea of an Actions dropdown is nice because you don’t waste screen real estate with lesser-used icons. The Page Edit screen is looking nice too: [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/edit-page-2.png](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade/edit-page-2.png) I agree with Arik in that gradients shouldn’t be overused (I personally like the ‘flat’ look of the current Radiant). - Dave ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/7 "2008-05-30T17:01:45Z")
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On May 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Arik J. wrote: > > > What are some ideas to clean it up or streamline the “modify” column? > > We’ve been playing with some ideas on github. Have a look at the new > “pages” mockups: > > [http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade](http://github.com/jlong/radiant/tree/master/mockups/blade) Looks great! How long before the new design is rolled into trunk? ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/8 "2008-05-30T00:39:44Z")
Please forgive my strong opinion, but… oh, hold up please. What’s going on with all those rounded corners? And the gradients are a bit over the top. Why move the tabs and are you really planning a search field? On the positive side I do like the new metadata and attachments buttons. I’m interested in seeing what the attachment button will do because the old location for attachments made the save button fairly inconvenient. The current design is really good. Whoever said it was outdated was crazy. Some very subtle changes to improve usability (ajax for the save and continue), possibly relocating a few things, and some more nice art like on the metadata button would be welcomed. -Steven ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/9 "2008-05-30T17:18:26Z")
A big thumbs up for the excellent work re-organising/categorising the admin section. I think it helps reinforce the logical separation of such things as elements in which it is possible but not advisable to put things where they don’t belong. As for the graphic design of the pages, you guys do beautiful work. Do what makes you happy. -dan On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:35 PM, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/10 "2008-05-30T17:07:08Z")
On May 30, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Tim G. wrote: > Looks great! How long before the new design is rolled into trunk? No promises, but hopefully sometime this summer. – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/11 "2008-05-30T17:50:29Z")
I’ve had several people approach me at RailsConf asking how they can contribute to Radiant and not necessarily do a lot of coding, and I’ve suggested that working with the prototype to implement these mockups would be a great way to start. Sean ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/12 "2008-06-01T08:21:00Z")
Big thumbs up for booth of these extensions. They both are nicely done and serve slightly different roles. I like how gallery is more or less all together in one place. It’s draw back is that it doesn’t have as many useful tags. The one thing that seems odd about attachments is that if you attaching certain images to certain pages it’s easy to get your images scattered. To properly deal with images in Radiant it seems you need them both. One repository with the best of gallery and attachments would be pretty useful. Another thing about them both that’s odd to work with is that they both create a directory for every image you upload. I may be a bit old fashion because I keep thinking it would be easier having one directory, say the images directory, with all the images just crammed in. The one feature I haven’t gotten to work right on the gallery extension is reordering the individual images. They move real cool on the backend but then they just don’t stay where you put them. Anyone else having trouble with that? As a user of the gallery extension I think I could also use a way to try to move images from one gallery to another. Really nice work on both of those extension so far. Thank you for making them. Regards, Steven ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/13 "2008-05-31T20:43:05Z")
My Saturday project has floundered! I’ve developed a site under Radiant 0.6.6 with Sqlite3 and not want to put it into production on a MySQL server. I installed the import/export extension. I exported from the sqlite3 database with rake db:export I converted the config/database.yml and created and bootstrapped a new but empty production database. I then tried doing an import with rake production db:import It errored. I got what looked like migrations then … ERROR: Specify a template to load with the TEMPLATE environment variable. Creating Users…OK Creating Snippets…OK Creating Pages…OK Creating Radiant/configs…FAILED rake aborted! Mysql::Error: Duplicate entry ‘galleries.path’ for key 2: INSERT INTO `config` (`value`, `key`) VALUES(‘galleries’, ‘galleries.path’) I was under the impression that the TEMPLATE setting has a smart default. Regardless, when I inspected the database using the MySQL browser I found that the Users, Snippets and Pages were what I expected. I can’t account for that final catastrophic error. I could imagine this on a re-run. If the migration created that entry then there is a different problem. Suggestions as to how to proceed? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/14 "2008-06-02T00:17:13Z")
> If fixed that bug in the latest version. Try to pull it from github I fixed… 🙂 – Andrea F. [http://gravityblast.com](http://gravityblast.com) - [http://nimboo.net](http://nimboo.net) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/15 "2008-06-02T20:33:24Z")
On Jun 1, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Andrea F. wrote: > > The one feature I haven’t gotten to work right on the gallery > > extension is > > reordering the individual images. > > If fixed that bug in the latest version. Try to pull it from github > and try again. > Thanks it works great now. > Big thumbs up for booth of these extensions. They both are nicely > done and > serve slightly different roles. I like how gallery is more or less > all > together in one place. It’s draw back is that it doesn’t have as > many useful > tags. Let me know what tags you need. If they are usefull we could add them. I think I could use something like: \ \ Again, the extension is really great. Thank you. Regards, Steven ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/16 "2008-06-02T23:41:29Z")
You’ve probably gotten past this point, but you can always try out my transfer rake task. It transfers from SQLite to MySQL and vice-versa without the YML in the middle. [http://blog.radixhound.com/2008/4/28/backing-up-radiant-cms-using-sqlite3](http://blog.radixhound.com/2008/4/28/backing-up-radiant-cms-using-sqlite3) -Chris ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/17 "2008-06-02T00:16:37Z")
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Steven S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Big thumbs up for booth of these extensions. They both are nicely done and > serve slightly different roles. I like how gallery is more or less all > together in one place. It’s draw back is that it doesn’t have as many useful > tags. Let me know what tags you need. If they are usefull we could add them. > The one thing that seems odd about attachments is that if you > attaching certain images to certain pages it’s easy to get your images > scattered. To properly deal with images in Radiant it seems you need them > both. One repository with the best of gallery and attachments would be > pretty useful. Another thing about them both that’s odd to work with is > that they both create a directory for every image you upload. I may be a > bit old fashion because I keep thinking it would be easier having one > directory, say the images directory, with all the images just crammed in. They create that folders because they both use attachment\_fu that use the following technich: [http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/id\_partitioning.php](http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/id_partitioning.php) > The one feature I haven’t gotten to work right on the gallery extension is > reordering the individual images. If fixed that bug in the latest version. Try to pull it from github and try again. – Andrea F. [http://gravityblast.com](http://gravityblast.com) - [http://nimboo.net](http://nimboo.net) ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/18 "2008-06-03T01:01:49Z")
Anton A. said the following on 02/06/08 06:02 PM: > I’ve tried a lot of things and learnt a lot of things. > As they say, you learn more form failure than success ☹ Among them is that the SQL syntax of a sqlite3 .dump is not the SQL syntax that MySQL requires. Yes, there are pages on the 'Net that describe scripts to patch it over, but one of them are complete. So far I haven’t found a side by side comparison or a shell/awk/sed/perl script that does a conversion that works. – And don’t tell me there isn’t one bit of difference between null and space, because that’s exactly how much difference there is. – Larry Wall ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/19 "2008-06-03T00:04:22Z")
I’ve tried a lot of things and learnt a lot of things. As they say, you learn more form failure than success ☹ Your extension looks nice … but I’m never sure what the target of the rake db:migrate rake db:migrate:extension is going to be. Christopher D. said the following on 02/06/08 05:40 PM: > > My Saturday project has floundered! > > I then tried doing an import with > > > > default. > > > > – > > As far as I know, we have never had an undetected error. > > > > * * * > > > > Radiant mailing list > > Post: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > > Search: [http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/](http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/) > > Site: [http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant](http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant) – Together, we can make ourselves a nation that spends more on books than on bombs, more on hospitals than the terrible tools of war, more on decent houses than military aircraft. – Robert Kennedy March 24, 1968 ---
**Author:** ![imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ce7236/32.png) [@imakethings](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/imakethings)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/state-of-the-radiantcms-ui/139002/20 "2008-06-03T03:22:57Z")
Anton A. said the following on 02/06/08 07:00 PM: > So far I haven’t found a side by side comparison or a shell/awk/sed/perl > script that does a conversion that works. What I’ve done to get in this mess in the first place is to develop content on my laptop (think ‘desktop replacement’). That’s ‘content’ not ‘application’. Of course I developed it using Sqlite3, since that seems to be the new baseline for Rails2. I planned to deploy it on Dreamhost and MySQL, but decided to test an export/import from Sqlite3 to MySQL on the laptop first, which led to this problem. In the past I’ve only used Sqlite3 on Dreamhost and the one time I did develop content locally and export the files there it failed - I don’t know if this was a version, library or word-length problem. In that instance there wasn’t much content and I did cut-and-paste into a new database. But I’m going to have to do the export of the local database and import it on Dreamhost and I’m dreading that. Why doesn’t Rails come with tools for doing this kind of thing? – “Current economics is merely refining the obsolete. Economic theory is still based on the scarcity axiom, which doesn’t apply to information. When I sell you a phone, I no longer have it. When I sell information to you, I have more information by the very fact that you have it and I know you have it. That’s not even true of money.” – Peter Drucker, WiReD6.03 Mar-1998