# Starting on the Ruby Rails path **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [May 24, 2006, 11:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477 "2006-05-24T11:07:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 11:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/1 "2006-05-24T11:07:17Z")
Hi all, I’m a web designer/-developer. I found Ruby and Ruby on Rails, and as I can understand (for now) this is what I’ve been looking for. I’m really exited about this. Prior to this I’ve used Lasso and PHP. But a few questions (sitting on Mac OS 10.4.6). I tried to install according to this: > **[Dan Benjamin](https://danbenjamin.com)** > > Dan Benjamin's personal website. But I got stuck when installing Rails with “sudo gem install rails –include-dependencies”. I think I either wasn’t in the right directory when doing the installation via the terminal, or I didn’t get the PATH right (probably the latter). Don’t know if that “export PATH=”/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:$PATH"" was correct for bash. Can’t I put that in .bash\_profile together with the mysql path I have there? (Never understood the difference with .bash\_profile, .bashrc, .bash\_login, etc). How do I check if I got Ruby and RubyGems installed properly? I also got Locomotive for Mac OS. If I have that do I need to bother with the other installation above? ---
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/2 "2006-05-24T12:55:03Z")
If you use Locomotive you can skip the steps. I personally don’t like locomotive but it does the job. On 5/24/06, Pål Bergström [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > –include-dependencies". I think I either wasn’t in the right directory > I also got Locomotive for Mac OS. If I have that do I need to bother > with the other installation above? > > – > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/). > > * * * > > Rails mailing list > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails) – ---
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/3 "2006-05-24T16:01:50Z")
Yes, you can put it into your ~/.bash\_profile. However, it won’t become active until you log out and log back in. To see if it is active, use the env command and look for the PATH variable. Does it start with /usr/local/bin (it should, according to your post below)? On May 24, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Pål Bergström wrote: ---
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/4 "2006-05-24T16:15:34Z")
Anthony C. wrote: > Yes, you can put it into your ~/.bash\_profile. However, it won’t > become active until you log out and log back in. To see if it is > active, use the env command and look for the PATH variable. Does it > start with /usr/local/bin (it should, according to your post below)? > > On May 24, 2006, at 5:07 AM, PÃ¥l Bergström wrote: Got it working! With both Locomotive and “directly”. I will try to get started and learn Ruby on Rails. But it’s not that easy to understand. I think I’ll have a look at Ruby first. Anyway, I understand that there are several tools in Rails that make things easy to develop. I wonder if that is a smart way to go or if it makes you limited in what you can do? And what control do I have over the layout and design, where to define css, etc? ---
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/5 "2006-05-24T16:39:18Z")
Complete control. RoR is all about the tools. It does not limit you in any way. Just makes it faster. No need really to dive into Ruby first. Just start Railing and the rest will come naturally. On 5/24/06, Pål Bergström [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > * * * > > Rails mailing list > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails) – ---
**Author:** ![paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@paulbutcher](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/paulbutcher)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/starting-on-the-ruby-rails-path/61477/6 "2006-05-24T16:49:56Z")
Jón Borgþórsson wrote: > Complete control. RoR is all about the tools. It does not limit you in > any way. Just makes it faster. No need really to dive into Ruby first. > Just start Railing and the rest will come naturally. > > On 5/24/06, PÃ¥l Bergström [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > * * * > > > > Rails mailing list > > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > > [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails) > > – Ok. Thanks.