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Hi David,

Is there a usable Rails adapter for KirbyBase? ACID transactions (for DB
schema changes if nothing else)?

http://rubyforge.org/projects/ackbar - about to be released this weekend
:slight_smile:

And with the good and bad of it, SQL is -the- standard RDBMS query language,
so that would restrict KirbyBase to small / personal projects where you’re
sure you’ll never change DB backends.

Also, why would someone that already knows SQL choose KirbyBase over SQLite?
The latter installs very easily too.

Sometime that is excatly why you need it: small, personal projects…
which are shrink wrapped to distribute to other users. For me that is
exactly what I need. A no hussle installation which works across
multiple platforms (‘gem install app’ which picks up the dbms).
No, it’s not ACID. No, it doesn’t support AR 100%. Yes, I will have
overhead to make sure my app works both on KB and on SQLite. But for
the end user who couldn’t care less about the backend as long as it
works - the no third party to install works great. The plain-text data
format is also great - your data is always available to you, even if
my app or the database suddenly become problematic.

Of course, any real webapp might need need a real database. I’m
just talking about the less real, “works for me” class of applications
:slight_smile:

HTH,
Assaph

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DÅ?a Piatok 10 Február 2006 00:08 Assaph M. napísal:

Of course, any real webapp might need need a real database. I’m
just talking about the less real, “works for me” class of applications

Well, that’s the main problem with concurrency bugs. You don’t know
where they
might occur (e.g. they might theoretically occur anywhere) until they
do, and
they’re usually also very obscure bugs. The other way I had to SSH over
to a
friend and do the SQLite delete column hack, and I was damn glad to have
the
table locked while doing it and ROLLBACK at my fingertips - ever so
slightly
a more elegant solution than taking the whole application offline and
then
hacking at the file. Although very possibly subject to taste and the
desire
to do things “right” for acquired meanings of the world more than
anything
else.

Of course, for “works for me”, it’s probably Very Good ™, as well as
for
people that don’t know SQL or find it excruciatingly painful to work
with the
language or SQL shells.

David V.

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On 2/9/06, Alain FELER [email protected] wrote:

Integer, Float, Boolean, Time, Date, DateTime, Memo, Blob, and YAML.)

  • fast enough
  • free
    AF

I dig that this recommendation for kirby was written in yaml. :wink:

– AL –