# SPF record for lists.rubyonrails.org / rubyonrails.com etc

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/spf-record-for-lists-rubyonrails-org-rubyonrails-com-etc/48673>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [November 23, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/spf-record-for-lists-rubyonrails-org-rubyonrails-com-etc/48673 "2005-11-23T05:23:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/enigma)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/spf-record-for-lists-rubyonrails-org-rubyonrails-com-etc/48673/1 "2005-11-23T05:23:13Z")

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hey all,

would be good to have an SPF record for [rubyonrails.com](http://rubyonrails.com) so my spam  
filter doesn’t (occasionally) misinterpret list messages as spam…

also, SPF records are a good thing,

see: [http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html](http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html)

best,

\_alex

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alex black, founder  
the turing studio, inc.

510.666.0074  
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
[http://www.turingstudio.com](http://www.turingstudio.com)

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berkeley, ca 94710

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**Author:** ![enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/enigma)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/spf-record-for-lists-rubyonrails-org-rubyonrails-com-etc/48673/2 "2005-11-24T08:33:54Z")

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On 24/11/2005, at 12:51 PM, Ray B. wrote:

> list, would have to have an SPF record that noted that  
> (By the way, if you are checking on what I am saying, look at  
> someone else’s mail, not this one. I am reading this as a newsgroup  
> through gmane.)
> 
> I agree that SPF records are a good thing, but this issue of  
> forwarding is a thorny one which has not been solved.

Mailman changes the envelope sender to rails-  
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. I’ve set my SPF checking software  
(Courier MTA) to allow though emails where the From: header doesn’t  
match SPF records but the envelope sender does. It’s the best we can  
do for now, short of adding an exception for every list we join…

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**Author:** ![enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@enigma](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/enigma)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/spf-record-for-lists-rubyonrails-org-rubyonrails-com-etc/48673/3 "2005-11-24T00:59:05Z")

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alex black wrote:

> would be good to have an SPF record for [rubyonrails.com](http://rubyonrails.com) so my spam  
> filter doesn’t (occasionally) misinterpret list messages as spam…
> 
> also, SPF records are a good thing,
> 
> see: [http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html](http://www.openspf.org/wizard.html)

That wouldn’t work. Mailman, the list server software for this list,  
forwards the mail that you send to everyone on the list, so you are the  
sender. You, and everyone else who contributes to this list, would have  
to have an SPF record that noted that [rubyonrails.com](http://rubyonrails.com) was allowed to  
forward mail for them. This means that if you use gmail, you need to  
convince Google to add this record.

Actually, the reason that some messages are being marked as spam is  
probably _because_ the sender has an SPF record that doesn’t include  
[rubyonrails.com](http://rubyonrails.com) as a source.

[Rubyonrails.com](http://Rubyonrails.com) would have to switch to software that resent the mail  
from some user at [rubyonrails.com](http://rubyonrails.com).

(By the way, if you are checking on what I am saying, look at someone  
else’s mail, not this one. I am reading this as a newsgroup through  
gmane.)

I agree that SPF records are a good thing, but this issue of forwarding  
is a thorny one which has not been solved.

Ray

–  
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
[http://www.warmroom.com/](http://www.warmroom.com/)
