# Skill levels and training joint venture

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**Created:** [March 20, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/skill-levels-and-training-joint-venture/132424 "2008-03-20T01:04:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/boothy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/skill-levels-and-training-joint-venture/132424/1 "2008-03-20T01:04:52Z")

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Is there anyone on this group who thinks they are a Ruby programmer and  
learned  
Ruby as their first computer language?

I can pick up a book on any language and follow it except Ruby. And  
most  
Ruby tutorials or books will say they assume the reader has computer  
experience.  
And I once wrote a 70 page VB program that is still being used by the  
State of Ca  
after 15 years.

If a book doesn’t say it they assume it anyway by the third chapter even  
the “beginning” books.

I have come to the conclusion that Ruby is a programming language only  
for  
experienced computer programmers. So far.

If there is one person that answers yes then I will have hope.

Would any kind soul (ie programmer) want to joint venture on writing a  
course for non-programmers?  
I would do the writing, PDFing and of course the beta testing. I have  
the desire to learn and the  
non-knowledge necessary. I wrote one technical manual and edited one  
training video.

I will pay the hosting fees to sell the course and I would like to do it  
by goals.  
Each session will have a goal. If the student cannot achieve this goal  
they could get a refund.  
I have no idea on what to charge, something to discuss. I would like to  
have a quality product so my first thought is $50 per goal. If there  
were such a product I would buy it and not write it.

It would not be one massive book or tutorial. We would do one goal at a  
time, after each one we market it and move on to the next one.

I am in the So Calif area.

I know there have been a few on this group who would benefit from this.

you can respond to me at  
ez24hours @ yahoo dot  
com

thanks

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**Author:** ![boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/boothy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/skill-levels-and-training-joint-venture/132424/2 "2008-03-20T01:12:30Z")

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you should had learn a computer programming language like C/C++ java and  
such…  
ruby should be very easy _very_ easy coming from that side… but  
VB… 😉

Roger B.  
escribió:\> Is there anyone on this group who thinks they are a Ruby programmer

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**Author:** ![boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@boothy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/boothy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/skill-levels-and-training-joint-venture/132424/3 "2008-03-20T01:19:33Z")

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On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Roger B. wrote:

> Is there anyone on this group who thinks they are a Ruby programmer  
> and learned  
> Ruby as their first computer language?

Have you seen this book?

[http://pragprog.com/titles/fr\_ltp](http://pragprog.com/titles/fr_ltp)

Learn to program, using Ruby. A perfect match! 🙂

–  
– Tom M.