# Site Dsign Confusion **URL:** \ **Category:** Radiant CMS\ **Created:** [June 19, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258 "2007-06-19T18:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/1 "2007-06-19T18:40:15Z")
Hi Guys I’ve been following the mailing list for a while and seem to quite like Radiant. I’m thinking of building a website for engineers to use - it would have HTML versions of manuals (think MSDN or the PHP manual site) and registered engineers would be able to add comments to every page. In addition, this part of the site would work with a wiki, a BBS (RForum?), an events calendar and some other features. Now, the site does have a lot of static content which is updated only once in a while (though new manuals will be added) but there is quite a bit of “application” too - features such as engineer’s personal space, integration with forums, etc. Therefore, I can’t decide if Radiant would be the correct starting point. I have also recently read about RadiantsOnRails and am not completely sure how that works and which way to go. Any advice would be helpful. Cheers Mohit. ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/2 "2007-06-19T19:07:20Z")
Mohit S. wrote: > integration with forums, etc. > Radiant might be a good choice for this. There is also Hieraki: [http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/](http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/) – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/3 "2007-06-19T21:24:41Z")
On 6/19/07, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Radiant might be a good choice for this. There is also Hieraki: Is Hieraki still active? – Chris B., Hypsometry [http://hypsometry.com/](http://hypsometry.com/) ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/4 "2007-06-20T02:40:14Z")
> Radiant might be a good choice for this. There is also Hieraki: > > [http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/](http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/) Hieraki seems to be no longer maintained. Just want to point to one more new Rails based wiki software which I use here. It is called Informl, based on i2 (next generation of instiki). check it out at [http://informl.folklogic.net](http://informl.folklogic.net) or [http://rubyforge.org/projects/informl](http://rubyforge.org/projects/informl) I use Radiant for our main site and informl to maintain a wiki. saji … – Saji N. Hameed APEC Climate Center +82 51 668 7470 National Pension Corporation Busan Building 12F Yeonsan 2-dong, Yeonje-gu, BUSAN 611705 removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid KOREA ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/5 "2007-06-20T19:15:17Z")
John W. Long wrote: > Mohit S. wrote: > > > Now, the site does have a lot of static content which is updated only > > once in a while (though new manuals will be added) but there is quite > > a bit of “application” too - features such as engineer’s personal > > space, integration with forums, etc. > > Radiant might be a good choice for this. There is also Hieraki: > > [http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/](http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/) Thanks for your input, John. I think it gives me the encouragement to try out more with Radiant. I think right now, I understand how to do the basics - create a stylesheet, create a layout, insert headers footers and sidebars, etc. Going ahead, I’m wondering exactly what I should read for things like creating links such as “see also: [x], [y]” (I think it’s going to be done by using find\_by\_url but I’m not yet sure) - I guess my interest is in finding the exact documentation for becoming productive. As time goes on, I would like to help flesh out these details into small articles (like my ‘Hello world with Radiant’ article), so that it’s clearer for others. As for Hieraki, I think it doesn’t seem to be supported much any more. I wonder if it is the right choice going ahead. Cheers, Mohit. 6/21/2007 | 1:13 AM. ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/6 "2007-06-21T02:21:03Z")
Mohit, When you are in the administritative interface and editing a page, you may notice a reference section…close to the Filter menu. clicking on available tags brings up a window, that contains a basic reference manual on tags (or filters). I find this feature good enough for me (i am a rank beginner). The wiki has some primers on using the tags. ## saji - Mohit S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) [2007-06-21 01:13:23 +0800]: > > [http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/](http://rubyforge.org/projects/hieraki/) > > * * * > > Radiant mailing list > Post: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > Search: [http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/](http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/) > Site: [http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant](http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant) – Saji N. Hameed APEC Climate Center +82 51 668 7470 National Pension Corporation Busan Building 12F Yeonsan 2-dong, Yeonje-gu, BUSAN 611705 removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid KOREA ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/7 "2007-06-21T02:29:03Z")
Hi Mohit, I use informl for our internal pages, creating manuals etc. Pretty happy with it except for the lack of authentication. I have no plan to integrate it with our website (powered by Radiant). If I had to, I would probably provide a link to the Wiki from the Radiant powered website. Currently Informl has no authentication features…anybody can edit a page…I believe the developers are working on adding this feature… for now it does not matter to me. There are a number of Ruby-based Wikis - for instance Instiki or its various clones, Wagn, Pandora (@rubyveil) etc…- You can find more from Rubyforge or Ruby on Rails website. Good luck, saji - Mohit S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) [2007-06-21 01:16:43 +0800]: > > [http://rubyforge.org/projects/informl](http://rubyforge.org/projects/informl) > > evaluation of informl coming along? I noticed your posts in the informl > > mailing list (in fact, you seem to be the only one using the list) and it > > seems that you are quite pleased. I’ve been keeping tabs on informl also > > and it does seem like a good idea - just need to work through how its > > security works before trying to deploy it to the net. > > May I also ask how you are integrating informl and Radiant? > > Cheers > Mohit. – Saji N. Hameed APEC Climate Center +82 51 668 7470 National Pension Corporation Busan Building 12F Yeonsan 2-dong, Yeonje-gu, BUSAN 611705 removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid KOREA ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/8 "2007-06-20T19:18:17Z")
Saji Njarackalazhikam H. wrote: > I use Radiant for our main site and informl to maintain a wiki. > > saji > … Hi Saji, I think your observation about Hieraki seems correct. How is your evaluation of informl coming along? I noticed your posts in the informl mailing list (in fact, you seem to be the only one using the list) and it seems that you are quite pleased. I’ve been keeping tabs on informl also and it does seem like a good idea - just need to work through how its security works before trying to deploy it to the net. May I also ask how you are integrating informl and Radiant? Cheers Mohit. ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/9 "2007-06-21T05:48:15Z")
Saji Njarackalazhikam H. wrote: > for now it does not matter to me. > > There are a number of Ruby-based Wikis - for instance Instiki or its > various clones, Wagn, Pandora (@rubyveil) etc…- You can find more > from Rubyforge or Ruby on Rails website. > > Good luck, > > saji Hi Saji, Thank you for your email. I understand what you mean. For a bit, I thought that you did have it working on a public site. I misunderstood. I will be keen to integrate with a wiki but I’m not yet sure which one. Naturally, authentication is important since it’s a public facing website but I want to try to see if it can share the same schemes as Radiant so that there is something like a “single-sign on”. There are plans also to build it up to include a BBS/ Forum (either based on Beast or RForum) so that it’s like a complete portal. Cheers, Mohit. 6/21/2007 | 11:47 AM. ---
**Author:** ![mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@mohits](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/mohits)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/site-dsign-confusion/107258/10 "2007-06-21T05:44:15Z")
Saji Njarackalazhikam H. wrote: > saji Hi Saji, Thank you for your email. That’s rough;y what I do, but I was wondering if there was any tutorial that was a bit more detailed. It’s fine - I guess it’s time to roll up my sleeves, understand how it works and write up a tutorial or two 🙂 Cheers, Mohit. 6/21/2007 | 11:41 AM.