# Shoes as Gems or other such **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [August 27, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/shoes-as-gems-or-other-such/193984 "2010-08-27T15:10:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Handy_G)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/shoes-as-gems-or-other-such/193984/1 "2010-08-27T15:10:44Z")
I was just checking out shoes. While I like it, I am a bit concerned. The standard way of using shoes is to download shoes and use ruby from shoes, but what I would like to do is download shoes as a gem and use it from ruby. Is there a way of doing that? Os some thing similar. PS I am using Linux Mint ( essentially Ubuntu ), so there are a lot of ruby stuff that I can get as deb packages. So I’m hesitant to lose all that to get an independent shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Handy_G)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/shoes-as-gems-or-other-such/193984/2 "2010-08-27T16:26:12Z")
> The standard way of using shoes is to download shoes and use ruby from > shoes, but what I would like to do is download shoes as a gem and use it > from ruby. Is there a way of doing that? Os some thing similar. I’m not aware of one as shoes was basically “it’s own fork” of Ruby. ---
**Author:** ![Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Handy_G)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/shoes-as-gems-or-other-such/193984/3 "2010-08-27T17:02:00Z")
On Aug 27, 10:05 am, Handy G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I was just checking out shoes. While I like it, I am a bit concerned. > > The standard way of using shoes is to download shoes and use ruby from > shoes, but what I would like to do is download shoes as a gem and use it > from ruby. Is there a way of doing that? Os some thing similar. Basically Shoes does lot of initialization to the graphic framework that is not possible to initialize when a gem loads (is too late in the process) > PS I am using Linux Mint ( essentially Ubuntu ), so there are a lot of > ruby stuff that I can get as deb packages. So I’m hesitant to lose all > that to get an independent shoes. Well, you should not depend on your system management system to work with shoes or even RubyGems in general (IMO) ---
**Author:** ![Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Handy\_G](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Handy_G)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/shoes-as-gems-or-other-such/193984/4 "2010-08-27T17:19:34Z")
Hey there, thanks for the interest in Shoes! > The standard way of using shoes is to download shoes and use ruby from > shoes, but what I would like to do is download shoes as a gem and use it > from ruby. Is there a way of doing that? Os some thing similar. There isn’t a way to do this currently. Shoes has its own separate copy of Ruby within it, and it keeps its own gems. Why gave his rationale here: > This is Shoes. Which isn’t a Ruby library. It’s not a gem. It’s a kit. Shoes has an installer. You click on a .shy file (such as Tetris) and it launches Shoes. [http://wiki.github.com/shoes/shoes/clearing-up-the-whole-shoes-and-rubygems-deal](http://wiki.github.com/shoes/shoes/clearing-up-the-whole-shoes-and-rubygems-deal) > PS I am using Linux Mint ( essentially Ubuntu ), so there are a lot of > ruby stuff that I can get as deb packages. So I’m hesitant to lose all > that to get an independent shoes. Out of curiosity, what would you get as a .deb, and why would that be better than using RubyGems for everything? Also, on this general topic, there is talk of eventually packaging Shoes as a gem. Right now, that’s not feasible, but after the Shoes 3 release on Whyday, Team Shoes is currently working out exactly what we want to do with Shoes in the future, and it’s one possibility. This would require a total rewrite of Shoes, though, so it’s not something that’s being considered lightly.