# Ruby's new website

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [November 24, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983 "2008-11-24T11:04:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/reddvinylene)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983/1 "2008-11-24T11:04:38Z")

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Is it just me, or is Ruby’s new website way too much? A jumble of bad  
ideas some’d say, or an amateur’s attempt at being fancy. I’d say it’s  
not really coherent with what Ruby really is. Whatever happened to  
“Perfection is achieved, not when there’s nothing left to add, but  
when there’s nothing left to take away”? Anybody ever read the book  
“Don’t make me think”? Basically it’s like this. The more stuff you  
add, the more you’ll confuse people. Like now when I visit Ruby’s  
website I’m just struck by all the stuff that’s there. Confused, I  
take a closer look and try to make sense of things. As oppose to  
immediately soaking it all up, had it been simple, like Ruby’s old  
website. Also, the less you add, the lesser the risk of something  
going wrong, out of fashion or whatever. I guess timeless design is no  
design at all. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/reddvinylene)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983/2 "2008-11-24T11:35:45Z")

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Redd V. wrote:

> Is it just me, or is Ruby’s new website way too much?

What new website? [ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org) looks the same it always did to me.

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**Author:** ![reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/reddvinylene)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983/3 "2008-11-24T11:52:13Z")

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Sebastian H.  
[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Redd V. wrote:
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> > Is it just me, or is Ruby’s new website way too much?
> 
> What new website? [ruby-lang.org](http://ruby-lang.org) looks the same it always did to me.

Copy that, however there is one suggestion I’d like to make.  
Maybe a link to the 1.9 download would be appropriate by now ( I mean  
a more prominent than in the “Other News” section).  
Likewise it might be nice to link to alternative implementations  
(_you_ surely have heard of JRuby, but has the Newby? And that holds  
even more for Rubinus et.al.).

Just 0.02$  
Cheers  
Robert

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**Author:** ![reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/reddvinylene)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983/4 "2008-11-24T11:37:31Z")

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From: “Redd V.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

> Is it just me, or is Ruby’s new website way too much?

Are we talking about this site? [Ruby Programming Language](http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/)

To me, it appears to present its information in a friendly,  
helpful, well-organized manner.

Regards,

Bill

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**Author:** ![reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@reddvinylene](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/reddvinylene)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubys-new-website/153983/5 "2008-11-24T13:07:31Z")

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Redd V. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> Is it just me, or is Ruby’s new website way too much? A jumble of bad  
> ideas some’d say, or an amateur’s attempt at being fancy.

A lot of people are going to read the last sentence above and write  
you off as an ass. Instead of posting this rant, you could design  
something yourself and put it out there for everyone to see. Then we  
could all comment on how much better your design is and whether it  
should replace the current.

Grrr.

Michael G.
