# RubyForge and RubyGems and GemCutter **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [October 27, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943 "2009-10-27T01:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rkoskela)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943/1 "2009-10-27T01:28:10Z")
Hi all - This has been announced in various forums, but we should have sent a message here in the initial flurry. To summarize, some major gem indexes are going to be consolidated - GemCutter and [gems.rubyforge.org](http://gems.rubyforge.org) will move to [rubygems.org](http://rubygems.org) and form one massive gem index. This index will be fronted by Nick Quaranto’s excellent GemCutter rails app. This app will be running on Ruby Central’s infrastructure at Rackspace. The entire announcement, more details, and a comment thread with some discussions here: [http://update.gemcutter.org/2009/10/26/transition.html](http://update.gemcutter.org/2009/10/26/transition.html) As part of this transition, RubyForge is going to be slowly stood down. It won’t simply be turned off, of course; we could see it staying in read-only mode for quite a while. But that’s where things are headed. The community hub functions of RubyForge will not go away. Community features that RubyForge uniquely provides (or should provide) will be added to the source base of the app that GemCutter started with and will be maintained on github. This is a change; but it’s one that we at Ruby Central feel is important. We want to provide the community with what it needs. With services that Github, the new SourceForge and Google Code provide we feel that source management, mailing lists and bug tracking are being better provided by others. We want to focus on community features. We will be developing those quickly and that will all hub at [RubyGems.org](http://RubyGems.org) . Yours, Rich Kilmer Ruby Central ---
**Author:** ![rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rkoskela)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943/2 "2009-10-27T04:04:30Z")
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Richard K. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Hi all - Hello Richard, > As I understand this: files packages and releases will disappear. Mailing lists will require be moved, etc. This is what defines “community features”, right? I’ve commented on that thread that not everything hosted at RubyForge is a gem, and because of that doesn’t fit into “RubyGems” domain. Also, there are projects that still uses CVS as repository, not to mention subversion which will need to transition to a DVCS to survive the read-only mode of RubyForge. > This is a change; but it’s one that we at Ruby Central feel is important. > We want to provide the community with what it needs. With services that > Github, the new SourceForge and Google Code provide we feel that source > management, mailing lists and bug tracking are being better provided by > others. We want to focus on community features. We will be developing > those quickly and that will all hub at [RubyGems.org](http://RubyGems.org). But now is not clear what is community features anymore, since GitHub provides issue tracking, code hosting and collaboration and page hosting, Google G. provides mailing lists and rdoc.info can provide up to date documentation. What would be the community features be created then? Please don’t take my comment as wrong, but as maintainer of RubyInstaller and developer of other projects I’m concern that the segmentation will hurt more than help. Right now is hard to get contributors and people find the documentation, downloads and tools, with the switch of RubyForge will make things even harder. Regards, ---
**Author:** ![rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rkoskela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943/3 "2009-11-03T21:54:39Z")
On Oct 26, 7:27 pm, Richard K. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > services that Github, the new SourceForge and Google Code provide we > feel that source management, mailing lists and bug tracking are being > better provided by others. We want to focus on community features. > We will be developing those quickly and that will all hub at [RubyGems.org](http://RubyGems.org) I’m glad to hear you guys are being proactive about new community dynamics. I want to thank you and Tom for your hard work and dedication to RubyForge. You guys rock. ~Trans ---
**Author:** ![rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rkoskela)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943/4 "2009-11-05T16:48:14Z")
> As part of this transition, RubyForge is going to be slowly stood > down. It won’t simply be turned off, of course; we could see it > staying in read-only mode for quite a while. But that’s where things > are headed. The community hub functions of RubyForge will not go > away. Community features that RubyForge uniquely provides (or should > provide) will be added to the source base of the app that GemCutter > started with and will be maintained on github. My $0.02–rubyforge was good but could easily go away. That being said, I do find it useful for file distributing [i.e. I typically know where to go to download non gems, like rubygems-1.3.5.tgz], and several people still use it for publishing documentation (their own style, their own way, not mass produced like [allgems.ruby-forum.com](http://allgems.ruby-forum.com) or rdoc.info). I therefore would move it not be abandoned entirely yet, which is apparently already in your plans 🙂 Thanks for the good work there and keep it up. -r ---
**Author:** ![rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@rkoskela](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rkoskela)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rubyforge-and-rubygems-and-gemcutter/177943/5 "2009-11-10T03:44:43Z")
On Nov 5, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Roger P. wrote: > I do find it useful for file distributing [i.e. I typically know where to go to download non gems, like rubygems-1.3.5.tgz], and several > people > still use it for publishing documentation (their own style, their own > way, not mass produced like [allgems.ruby-forum.com](http://allgems.ruby-forum.com) or rdoc.info). I > therefore would move it not be abandoned entirely yet, which is > apparently already in your plans 🙂 > Thanks for the good work there and keep it up. Yeah, I think back in 2003 it was worthwhile for Ruby Central to sponsor a code-hosting site. At this point the marginal value is pretty low. But we’ll keep some services around, and hopefully in a more useful form. Yours, Tom