# Ruby vs SELF **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [December 6, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998 "2008-12-06T00:03:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/dec6dc/32.png) [@quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/quik77)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998/1 "2008-12-06T00:03:53Z")
What are the main differences between Ruby and SELF in day-to-day work with creating “software”? I.e. I have read the description of SELF, but I felt that I wouldnt need SELF if I just learn it because I want to see what it offers (since I doubt that SELF is better than Ruby and I use Ruby happily since quite many years already). Quite curious about it though. ---
**Author:** ![quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/dec6dc/32.png) [@quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/quik77)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998/2 "2008-12-06T13:28:39Z")
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Marc H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > What are the main differences between Ruby and SELF in day-to-day work > with creating “software”? I.e. I have read the description of SELF, but > I felt that I wouldnt need SELF if I just learn it because I want to see > what it offers (since I doubt that SELF is better than Ruby and I use > as a specialisation of the general rule ;). > Conceptionally Self is very interesting but when I checked last Self > just was not an option on Linux. Did that change? > Ruby happily since quite many years already). > Robert > – > Ne baisse jamais la tête, tu ne verrais plus les étoiles. Robert D. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/dec6dc/32.png) [@quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/quik77)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998/3 "2008-12-06T14:03:13Z")
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Marc H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > What are the main differences between Ruby and SELF in day-to-day work > > with creating “software”? I.e. I have read the description of SELF, but > > I felt that I wouldnt need SELF if I just learn it because I want to see > > what it offers (since I doubt that SELF is better than Ruby and I use > > as a specialisation of the general rule ;). > > Conceptionally Self is very interesting but when I checked last Self > > just was not an option on Linux. Did that change? Just found while musing about Self: [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019](http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019) So it seems to run on linux now (again) as well. I somehow doubt that anybody is using Self as a day-to-day work language. ^ manveru ---
**Author:** ![quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/dec6dc/32.png) [@quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/quik77)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998/4 "2008-12-06T14:49:34Z")
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Michael F. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Just found while musing about Self: > [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019](http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019) > > So it seems to run on linux now (again) as well. > > I somehow doubt that anybody is using Self as a day-to-day work language. > > ^ manveru – Il computer non è una macchina intelligente che aiuta le persone stupide, anzi, è una macchina stupida che funziona solo nelle mani delle persone intelligenti. Computers are not smart to help stupid people, rather they are stupid and will work only if taken care of by smart people. Umberto Eco ---
**Author:** ![quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/dec6dc/32.png) [@quik77](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/quik77)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-vs-self/154998/5 "2008-12-06T14:50:12Z")
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Robert D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > Conceptionally Self is very interesting but when I checked last Self > > > just was not an option on Linux. Did that change? > > > > Just found while musing about Self: > > [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019](http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/self-interest/message/2019) > > > > So it seems to run on linux now (again) as well. > > > > I somehow doubt that anybody is using Self as a day-to-day work language. > > Me too, but will be nice to play with, thx. > > R.