# Ruby training?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [December 10, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929 "2006-12-10T20:25:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/1 "2006-12-10T20:25:43Z")

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I’d like to send a couple of my employees to a Ruby class, the ideal  
format would be a week-long intensive training session. Do any exist  
yet?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/2 "2006-12-11T04:46:40Z")

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May I suggest [www.learnruby.com](http://www.learnruby.com). The class material (and instructor)  
has gotten fantastic reviews. It’s a hands-on class where the  
participants write real code (not the “here’s a program and make two  
minor changes to it” variety). It’s delivered on-site at a reasonable  
price. And customization is available.

Disclaimer: I’m the instructor and I wrote the course.

One student took this class after taking Pragmatic Studio’s Enterprise  
Ruby Studio. She got virtually nothing out of their course and loved  
this one. Here’s what she said after the class, “The class is a  
perfect introduction to Ruby. Eric is very clear which makes it easy  
to follow and easy to learn. I now hope ALL my future development is  
in Ruby!”

One difference between the courses appears to be how the topic of Ruby  
itself is approached. As I teach the class, Ruby is the central focus  
and we build up the concepts underlying Ruby step by step. They  
describe their approach to Ruby as, “We’ll cover the necessary parts of  
Ruby as we go.”

Eric

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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/3 "2006-12-11T05:02:41Z")

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On 12/11/06, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> She got virtually nothing out of their course

Virtually nothing out of a 3-day workshop? It sounds like a slight  
overstatement.

A marketing guru once said: never publicly acknowledge the existence  
of your competitors, especially not if you are just going to bash  
them.

Peace!

Luciano

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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/4 "2006-12-11T05:28:43Z")

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> **[The Pragmatic Studio](https://pragmaticstudio.com/)**
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> Premium video courses for software developers. Real apps. Real code. Really good stuff!

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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/5 "2006-12-12T23:16:56Z")

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Luciano R. wrote:

> A marketing guru once said: never publicly acknowledge the existence  
> of your competitors, especially not if you are just going to bash  
> them.

In hindsight I think you’re right, at least mostly. Given that the  
Pragmatics are the 800 lbs gorilla in the arena, I think it’s  
appropriate to have mentioned them. However I should have pointed out  
that the courses take different approaches, have different emphases,  
and then invited people to compare the course descriptions and outlines  
and left it at that.

So thanks, and give my regards to the anonymous marketing guru!

Eric

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**Author:** ![Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Michael\_TSHalligan](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Michael_TSHalligan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 5:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-training/78929/6 "2006-12-11T05:40:48Z")

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Michael T. Halligan wrote:

> I’d like to send a couple of my employees to a Ruby class, the ideal  
> format would be a week-long intensive training session. Do any exist yet?

Also it would be very ideal of the training were either in Seattle or  
the SF Bay Area (where else would it be?)
