# Ruby One-click Installer and ruby 18.4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [January 4, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593 "2006-01-04T00:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/1 "2006-01-04T00:23:47Z")
Greetings, There was not release of the Ruby O.-click Installer with version 1.8.3. Anyone heard of plans of One-click Installer plan to include 1.8.4 and any target release timeframe? Thanks, Dany ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/2 "2006-01-04T00:36:06Z")
On 03/01/06, Dany C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Greetings, > There was not release of the Ruby O.-click Installer with version > 1.8.3. Anyone heard of plans of One-click Installer plan to include > 1.8.4 and any target release timeframe? Yes. Search for it. This is the fifth time that this has been asked. The answer has not changed. -austin ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/3 "2006-01-04T01:28:34Z")
Austin Z. wrote: > On 03/01/06, Dany C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > 1.8.3. Anyone heard of plans of One-click Installer plan to include > > 1.8.4 and any target release timeframe? > > Yes. Search for it. This is the fifth time that this has been asked. > The answer has not changed. Wow. This is how I imagine comp.lang.lisp acts. Just in my imagination though. Dany, the most recent thread was entitled “why there’s no ruby 1.8.4 for win-one-click-installer?”. In that thread, Curt H., who maintains the OCI, mentioned that the installer is a bunch of work (rebuilding all extensions, testing, etc.), is not an intrinsic part of Ruby, and that it will take him some time to get caught up (he has a day job too). Several suggestions were passed back to Curt on how he might reduce that time (reducing complexity / removing extensions, automation of build-test-packaging, or even convincing a 3rd party, like ActiveState, to get involved). Furthermore, Matz replied that there is always “ActiveScriptRuby” at [http://arton.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html](http://arton.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html). In the end though, if you want the 1.8.4 OCI, you’ll have to be patient. –Steve ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/4 "2006-01-04T01:53:21Z")
If someone doesn’t bother to search the list first, a short answer is fine. Robert ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/5 "2006-01-04T02:21:45Z")
I’m working in it. It should be sometime this month, but I can’t say exactly when. Thanks for your patience, Curt ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/6 "2006-01-04T02:24:48Z")
On 03/01/06, Stephen W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Austin Z. wrote: > > > On 03/01/06, Dany C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > 1.8.3. Anyone heard of plans of One-click Installer plan to include > > > 1.8.4 and any target release timeframe? > > > Yes. Search for it. This is the fifth time that this has been asked. > > > The answer has not changed. > > > Wow. This is how I imagine comp.lang.lisp acts. Just in my imagination > > > though. This is, as I said, the fifth time in less than TWO WEEKS. I’m not Curt, but I’d be pretty sick of hearing the question by now. I’ve been working in parallel with Curt (not in contact with, but he is aware of what I’m doing) to make it so that everything can be built with the Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. I’ve got nearly everything working with the base compile, and now I’m working on making sure that certain features work the way that they’re supposed to given that Visual C++ 2005 has changed its compile mechanism (and making changes to the way that zlib is included, since [zlib.org](http://zlib.org) has some guidelines on shipping when compiled with anything other than MS VC++ 6). It almost ALWAYS takes a minimum of two weeks to get the one-click installer’s first release candidate, because there’s a _lot_ there. Frankly, I was too short with Dany. But “ruby 1.8.4 one click installer” returns this as its first item: [http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/49793](http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/49793) It’s not hard to find, and I think that it’s polite of the asker to have at least done a little google searching first. (To compare: I have been trying to get OpenSSL compiled properly with VC++ 2005 since 26 December. I downloaded the latest snapshot for several days to see if a particular problem was fixed. I also worked with the OpenSSL CVS repository to review the changes from the OpenSSL 0.9.8 release. It wasn’t until yesterday that I posted a question to openssl-dev to ask about the problem when I was certain that I had exhausted what I could do. Last night, I posted a patch to their build process to fix other problems that I was having. I’m not saying everyone should go to the lengths that I did, but I am saying that it’s generally a good idea to at least do a little working.) -austin ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 7:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/7 "2006-01-04T07:20:16Z")
Sincere apologies to the list, for the noise. Austin’s response was appropriate… I meant to save my message as a draft… not send it. In my defense, sequence of events was: I didn’t manage to keep up to date with this list in December, so I started on a ‘blank’ sheet for the new year. Scan over Tim S.'s weekly news, where I learned that 1.8.4 was out! Got excited and looked to see if One-Click Installer had 1.8.4 already. This is when I noticed no one-click installer with 1.8.3 and prompted my question for 1.8.4. Started to type email during the day and got sidetracked. At the end of the day, while closing apps, I meant to save my message as a draft but hit the send button instead (duh!). Wanted to give an explaination so I don’t get ignored in future postings ☹ I usually do my research… my brain is still on vacation mode… Austin, sorry to use up your time… certainly no offense taken by your answer Curt, thanks for the One-Click installer!! Steve, thanks for the nice answer to a silly question… Again, sorry all for the noise! Regards, Dany ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/8 "2006-01-19T06:21:17Z")
Austin Z. wrote: > On 03/01/06, Stephen W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > Austin Z. wrote: > > > > > On 03/01/06, Dany C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > > > 1.8.3. Anyone heard of plans of One-click Installer plan to include > > > > 1.8.4 and any target release timeframe? > > > > Yes. Search for it. This is the fifth time that this has been asked. > > > > The answer has not changed. > > > > Wow. This is how I imagine comp.lang.lisp acts. Just in my imagination > > > > though. > > This is, as I said, the fifth time in less than TWO WEEKS. I’m not > Curt, but I’d be pretty sick of hearing the question by now. I’ve been > working in parallel with Curt (not in contact with, but he is aware of > what I’m doing) to make it so that everything can be built with the > Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. I’ve got nearly everything working > with the base compile, and now I’m working on making sure that certain > features work the way that they’re supposed to given that Visual C++ > 2005 has changed its compile mechanism (and making changes to the way > that zlib is included, since [zlib.org](http://zlib.org) has some guidelines on shipping > when compiled with anything other than MS VC++ 6). > > It almost ALWAYS takes a minimum of two weeks to get the one-click > installer’s first release candidate, because there’s a _lot_ there. > > Frankly, I was too short with Dany. But “ruby 1.8.4 one click > installer” returns this as its first item: > > [http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/49793](http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/49793) > > It’s not hard to find, and I think that it’s polite of the asker to > have at least done a little google searching first. (To compare: I > have been trying to get OpenSSL compiled properly with VC++ 2005 since > 26 December. I downloaded the latest snapshot for several days to see > if a particular problem was fixed. I also worked with the OpenSSL CVS > repository to review the changes from the OpenSSL 0.9.8 release. It > wasn’t until yesterday that I posted a question to openssl-dev to ask > about the problem when I was certain that I had exhausted what I could > do. Last night, I posted a patch to their build process to fix other > problems that I was having. I’m not saying everyone should go to the > lengths that I did, but I am saying that it’s generally a good idea to > at least do a little working.) > > -austin Personally I find your answer arrogant in all possible ways. If a person comes here for the first time and DOESN’T know to look elsewhere first, HOW THE HELL WOULD HE KNOW TO LOOK ELSWHERE FIRST! Noobs need answers, not intellectual brutism! The Ruby community is supposedly known as ‘friendly’, well you shot that all to shit Austin! I don’t care what your excuse is. ---
**Author:** ![dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dany](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dany)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-one-click-installer-and-ruby-18-4/51593/9 "2006-01-19T16:47:52Z")
On 18/01/06, Paul [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Personally I find your answer arrogant in all possible ways. You’re welcome to do so. > If a person comes here for the first time and DOESN’T know to look > elsewhere first, HOW THE HELL WOULD HE KNOW TO LOOK ELSWHERE FIRST! Um. Google? Google groups if nothing else? If you’re looking for a _new_ version of something, wouldn’t you use a search engine before asking people to answer you? > Noobs need answers, not intellectual brutism! > > The Ruby community is supposedly known as ‘friendly’, well you shot that > all to shit Austin! > > I don’t care what your excuse is. No excuse. I’m just tired of people asking questions for things that can be discovered very simply. No more, no less. As far as I know, Curt isn’t paid to do work on Ruby. I’m not paid to do work on Ruby. Any work that I do is because I enjoy doing it. If I get annoyed because someone is asking the same question that five people before have asked (and, again, a search would have demonstrably found the definitive answer), don’t be surprised. But what I have noticed is that the number of people who post via [ruby-forum.com](http://ruby-forum.com) seem to use the search feature less than those of us who use other means of posting. Or is it just me? -austin