# Ruby On Rails - Up and Running

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [July 23, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163 "2007-07-23T21:43:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/1 "2007-07-23T21:43:24Z")

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Hi everybody!

What do you think about this book?  
Do you recommend me to buy it to start in Ruby On Rails programming?  
Do you recommend it for Reference Guide?

I’ve a serious problem with on line references… I can’t focous my  
attention  
on my computer screen to read anything. 'Cause this, I’ve bought "PHP 4

- The  
Bible".

## – Davi V. removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid

"Religion, ideology, resources, land,  
spite, love or “just because”…  
No matter how pathetic the reason,  
it’s enough to start a war. "

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/2 "2007-07-23T22:58:01Z")

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hi

I am new to Ruby, i have the same issue as you are having. I have gone  
through multiple sites, books. but i liked Agile web development with  
Ruby the most.

it is a great book to start with.

let me know if you need any other information

Thanks

Ajit

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/3 "2007-07-24T03:18:30Z")

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Hi Davi,

I have quite a few books and this one is the one I use least - I  
thought it was rushed out and I found it of little value to me.

cheers, Dave P.

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/4 "2007-07-26T00:45:58Z")

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Hi,

Starting with this book worked very well with how I like to learn a  
new technology. I used it as the 3 days introduction to rails that  
take me on a tour of the different basic parts of the framework, then  
I picked up a copy of “Agile Web D. with Rails” which  
handled each subject with depth and was structured more like a  
reference than a tutorial.

That is my style though, whether a book is good for you or not highly  
depends on what you are trying to get out of it.

Khaled

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/5 "2007-07-26T00:46:12Z")

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On Jul 23, 12:46 pm, Davi [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> ```
> Hi everybody!
> 
> What do you think about this book?
> Do you recommend me to buy it to start in Ruby On Rails programming?
> Do you recommend it for Reference Guide?
> 
> I've a serious problem with on line references... I can't focous my attention
> 
> ```
> 
> on my computer screen to read anything. 'Cause this, I’ve bought “PHP 4 - The  
> Bible”.

See here  
[http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse\_frm/thread/c70215963b15fa6d/#](http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_frm/thread/c70215963b15fa6d/#)

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 9:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/6 "2007-07-24T09:16:54Z")

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Davo wrote:

> Hi Davi,
> 
> I have quite a few books and this one is the one I use least - I  
> thought it was rushed out and I found it of little value to me.
> 
> cheers, Dave P.

I dunno if I’d be _that_ harsh… It’s an _ok_ book but it’s more of a  
“Nutshell” approach in it’s presentation.

Davi, look into the “Agile Web D. with Rails” book from the  
Pragmatic Bookshelf. It’s far more comprehensive, IMHO.

[http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails2/index.html](http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails2/index.html)

DavidO

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/7 "2007-07-26T00:46:25Z")

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I agree with several of the comments here. Its a nice intro but its  
also slim on content and rushes through stuff pretty fast. Think of  
it as a very complete online article. So if you don’t mind paying $  
for that (I don’t) then its worth it.

The other book I have is Ruby for Rails (David Black). Its pretty  
good but I found it did not address some of the simplest questions  
that I had. Strangely enough Up and Running often had what I needed.  
The best part of the Ruby for Rails book is the Ruby coverage. Rails  
for Java Developers just arrived at my house today. I’ve only read  
the first chapter but it looks very promising so far.

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**Author:** ![Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Davi](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Davi)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 8:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/8 "2007-07-28T08:42:45Z")

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Davi,

David Orriss Jr wrote:

> I dunno if I’d be _that_ harsh… It’s an _ok_ book but it’s more of a  
> “Nutshell” approach in it’s presentation.
> 
> Davi, look into the “Agile Web D. with Rails” book from the  
> Pragmatic Bookshelf. It’s far more comprehensive, IMHO.
> 
> [http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails2/index.html](http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails2/index.html)
> 
> DavidO

You may look at my books section : [http://rails.rainbowpurple.com/books](http://rails.rainbowpurple.com/books)  
and the posts tagged as Books.

Agile Web D. with Rails Second Edition is probably best, and  
also uptodate with Rails 1.2. Beginning Series from Apress (Ruby, Ruby  
on Rails, Ruby on Rails E-commerce) are very friendly to beginners.

Never buy an old book on Rails. For some (obvious?) reasons books got  
obsoleted by Rails and other plugins pretty fast. Make sure you use the  
Rails version and plugins matching the ones from the book while  
_learning_.

While actually developing though, the resources on the net is the best  
way to update yourself. Plugins come and go, some got unmaintained etc.  
The landscape is changing pretty constantly. Google Reader, along with  
sites such as [PlanetRubyOnRails.org|.com](http://PlanetRubyOnRails.org%7C.com) (and of course, as a shameless  
plug, [RubyInside.com](http://RubyInside.com)) are your best friends 🙂

–  
Hendy I.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-up-and-running/110163/9 "2007-09-25T23:03:52Z")

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Em Quarta 25 Julho 2007 00:12, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid escreveu:

> See here  
> [http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse\_frm/thread/c70215963](http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_frm/thread/c70215963)  
> b15fa6d/#

Thank you very much for the replys.  
I forgot to search on the archives. Sorry.

Probably I’ll buy both “Ruby On Rails - Up and Running” and “Agile Web  
Development With Rails”.

Thanks to all.

## – Davi V. removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid

"Religion, ideology, resources, land,  
spite, love or “just because”…  
No matter how pathetic the reason,  
it’s enough to start a war. "
