# Ruby on Rails Opportunity!

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [January 30, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521 "2008-01-30T01:16:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/1 "2008-01-30T01:16:18Z")

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I am currently hiring for a Ruby on Rails Software Engineer! Please  
review job description and let me know if you are interested! You can  
contact me @ 425-278-0083 or removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid!

6-12 month contract  
**Must Clear Background Check**

The Opportunity:  
Our Client is looking to expand its development team with the addition  
of a talented, motivated software engineer. Successful candidates  
must be able write sustainable and maintainable code quickly and  
accurately. You must have a passion for writing modular software  
systems capable of handling large loads and high-traffic patterns.  
You will be asked to contribute multiple innovative solutions to  
difficult problems. Candidates should have a thirst for knowledge and  
be willing to constantly push the boundaries of our coding methods,  
our coding styles, and our coding results.

Responsibilities:

- Write scalable, maintainable code, unit, functional, and acceptance  
tests
- Create semi-fleshed out CSS and template files
- Contribute to system design and architecture decisions
- Assist in QA and firefighting efforts as necessary

Qualifications:

- Thorough understanding of object-oriented methodology
- Thorough understanding of MVC (Model-View-Controller) architectures
- Experience with coding database-backed web applications
- Expert knowledge in either mod\_perl or Ruby on Rails
- Intermediate knowledge of a mod\_perl templating language
- Intermediate CSS and Javascript skills
- Willingness to work in an Agile development environment
- Ability to clearly and concisely communicate technical ideas

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/2 "2008-01-30T06:26:13Z")

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Wow you must be offering a HUGE monetary compensation 😃

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/3 "2008-01-30T09:36:49Z")

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Didn’t pick the whole thing apart, just sections:

6-12 month contract

> **Must Clear Background Check**

Pay rate is…?

> our coding styles, and our coding results.

Shortened to:

We are looking for a very good Ruby on Rails developer. Must have good  
overall knowledge of everything as well as the motivation required to  
work  
consistently.

> Responsibilities:
> 
> - 
> 
> ```
> Write scalable, maintainable code, unit, functional, and
> 
> ```
> 
> acceptance  
> tests

Acceptance tests? Isn’t this something where you demonstrate to the user  
the  
application and record their reactions? I didn’t know you could write  
those.

> - 
> 
> ```
> Create semi-fleshed out CSS and template files
> 
> ```

Understandable, but usually I would get a proper designer to do this  
rather  
than a programmer.

> - 
> 
> ```
> Contribute to system design and architecture decisions
> 
> ```

Shorter: Come up with superb ideas.

> - 
> 
> ```
> Assist in QA and firefighting efforts as necessary
> 
> ```

This is what caught my eye and got me to reply in the first place:  
“firefighting efforts”. Do things just have a habit of spontaneously  
igniting there?

> Qualifications:
> 
> - 
> 
> ```
> Thorough understanding of object-oriented methodology
> 
> ```

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

> - 
> 
> ```
> Thorough understanding of MVC (Model-View-Controller)
> 
> ```
> 
> architectures

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

> - 
> 
> ```
> Experience with coding database-backed web applications
> 
> ```

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

> - 
> 
> ```
> Expert knowledge in either mod_perl or Ruby on Rails
> 
> ```

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers… wait, what? mod\_perl?  
What  
the hell has that got to do with RoR?

It’s an alright written advertisement (and nothing has beaten that  
rockstar  
one, yet!), but it needs… something. Like, more information on the  
client,  
the location and the pay rate.

–  
Ryan B.

> **[frozenplague.net](http://www.frozenplague.net)**
>
> This domain may be for sale!

Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/4 "2008-01-30T17:52:18Z")

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Good Morning Lobo,

Are you interested in this opportunity! If so, I would be glad to  
discuss in further detail!

Best Regards,

Portia Orner

Technical Recruiter

APEX Systems, Inc.  
10500 NE 8th St.

Bellevue, WA 98004

Office: 425.278.0083

Toll free: 877.335.5136

Fax: 425.278.0084

removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid

> **[Apex Systems](https://www.apexsystems.com/)**
>
> Value Reimagined. Apex Systems is a world class technology services business that incorporates industry insights and experience to deliver solutions that fulfill our clients’ digital visions.

Apex Systems, Inc. is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Apex Systems, Inc.  
does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, national  
origin, age, disability, or any other characteristic protected by  
applicable state or federal civil rights law.

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/5 "2008-01-30T18:29:34Z")

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Please don’t post jobs here.

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/6 "2008-01-30T17:48:10Z")

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Good Morning Ryan,

If you would like to give me a call, I would be glad to go over the  
details with you. The position is located in Seattle. I look forward  
to speaking with you!

Best Regards,

Portia Orner

Technical Recruiter

APEX Systems, Inc.  
10500 NE 8th St.

Bellevue, WA 98004

Office: 425.278.0083

Toll free: 877.335.5136

Fax: 425.278.0084

removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

[www.apexsystemsinc.com](http://www.apexsystemsinc.com) [http://www.apexsystemsinc.com/](http://www.apexsystemsinc.com/)

Apex Systems, Inc. is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Apex Systems, Inc.  
does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, national  
origin, age, disability, or any other characteristic protected by  
applicable state or federal civil rights law.

* * *

From: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
[[mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)] On Behalf Of Ryan B.  
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:36 AM  
To: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
Subject: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails Opportunity!

Didn’t pick the whole thing apart, just sections:

```
6-12 month contract
**Must Clear Background Check**

```

Pay rate is…?

```
The Opportunity:
Our Client is looking to expand its development team

```

with the addition  
of a talented, motivated software engineer. Successful  
candidates  
must be able write sustainable and maintainable code  
quickly and  
accurately. You must have a passion for writing modular  
software  
systems capable of handling large loads and high-traffic  
patterns.  
You will be asked to contribute multiple innovative  
solutions to  
difficult problems. Candidates should have a thirst for  
knowledge and  
be willing to constantly push the boundaries of our  
coding methods,  
our coding styles, and our coding results.

Shortened to:

We are looking for a very good Ruby on Rails developer. Must  
have good overall knowledge of everything as well as the motivation  
required to work consistently.

```
Responsibilities:
* Write scalable, maintainable code, unit,

```

functional, and acceptance  
tests

Acceptance tests? Isn’t this something where you demonstrate to  
the user the application and record their reactions? I didn’t know you  
could write those.

```
* Create semi-fleshed out CSS and template files

```

Understandable, but usually I would get a proper designer to do  
this rather than a programmer.

```
* Contribute to system design and architecture

```

decisions

Shorter: Come up with superb ideas.

```
* Assist in QA and firefighting efforts as

```

necessary

This is what caught my eye and got me to reply in the first  
place: “firefighting efforts”. Do things just have a habit of  
spontaneously igniting there?

```
Qualifications:
* Thorough understanding of object-oriented

```

methodology

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

```
* Thorough understanding of MVC

```

(Model-View-Controller) architectures

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

```
* Experience with coding database-backed web

```

applications

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers

```
* Expert knowledge in either mod_perl or Ruby on

```

Rails

Which you’ll get with Ruby on Rails developers… wait, what?  
mod\_perl? What the hell has that got to do with RoR?

It’s an alright written advertisement (and nothing has beaten  
that rockstar one, yet!), but it needs… something. Like, more  
information on the client, the location and the pay rate.

–  
Ryan B.  
[http://www.frozenplague.net](http://www.frozenplague.net)  
Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/7 "2008-01-30T20:05:06Z")

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Dustin A. wrote:

> Please don’t post jobs here.

And why don’t you want people to post jobs here?

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/8 "2008-01-31T00:07:53Z")

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On Jan 31, 2008 5:35 AM, Shandy N. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> Dustin A. wrote:
> 
> > Please don’t post jobs here.
> 
> And why don’t you want people to post jobs here?

People who post jobs here have every right to do exactly that. It’s a  
free  
way for them to potentially get decent Ruby on Rails coders rather than  
paying $$$ to post their advertisement on a job advertisement site that  
only  
covers their country. I know of no international job advertisement site.

Good Morning Ryan,

If you would like to give me a call, I would be glad to go over the  
details  
with you. The position is located in Seattle. I look forward to  
speaking  
with you!

Unfortunately if you’re based in Seattle (or even the States for that  
fact)  
it’ll cost me an international call. If I were to get the job there  
would be  
the whole relocating thing which is kind of expensive (somewhere in the  
$3k  
range just to get there) so I won’t be contacting you. If I was in the  
states I would give you a call.

–  
Ryan B.

> **[frozenplague.net](http://www.frozenplague.net)**
>
> This domain may be for sale!

Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.

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**Author:** ![Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Portia](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Portia)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-on-rails-opportunity/127521/9 "2008-01-31T00:12:35Z")

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Thank you for your feedback, Ryan! Good luck in the job market!

Best Regards,

Portia Orner

Technical Recruiter

APEX Systems, Inc.  
10500 NE 8th St.

Bellevue, WA 98004

Office: 425.278.0083

Toll free: 877.335.5136

Fax: 425.278.0084

removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

[www.apexsystemsinc.com](http://www.apexsystemsinc.com) [http://www.apexsystemsinc.com/](http://www.apexsystemsinc.com/)

Apex Systems, Inc. is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Apex Systems, Inc.  
does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, national  
origin, age, disability, or any other characteristic protected by  
applicable state or federal civil rights law.

* * *

From: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
[[mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)] On Behalf Of Ryan B.  
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:07 PM  
To: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
Subject: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails Opportunity!

On Jan 31, 2008 5:35 AM, Shandy N. \<  
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid\> wrote:

```
Dustin A. wrote:
> Please don't post jobs here.

And why don't you want people to post jobs here?

```

People who post jobs here have every right to do exactly that.  
It’s a free way for them to potentially get decent Ruby on Rails coders  
rather than paying $$$ to post their advertisement on a job  
advertisement site that only covers their country. I know of no  
international job advertisement site.

Good Morning Ryan,

If you would like to give me a call, I would be glad to go over  
the details with you. The position is located in Seattle. I look  
forward to speaking with you!

Unfortunately if you’re based in Seattle (or even the States for  
that fact) it’ll cost me an international call. If I were to get the job  
there would be the whole relocating thing which is kind of expensive  
(somewhere in the $3k range just to get there) so I won’t be contacting  
you. If I was in the states I would give you a call.

–  
Ryan B.  
[http://www.frozenplague.net](http://www.frozenplague.net)  
Feel free to add me to MSN and/or GTalk as this email.
