# Ruby nuby and mailing lists **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [July 25, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-nuby-and-mailing-lists/99863 "2006-07-25T23:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/cpeterson)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-nuby-and-mailing-lists/99863/1 "2006-07-25T23:49:41Z")
1. [rubynuby.org](http://rubynuby.org) seems to be down. Am I the only one having problems accessing it? 2. I was at [rubynuby.org](http://rubynuby.org) because I was looking for a beginners’ Ruby mailing list to which I could direct a friend (something perhaps equivalent to the perl-beginners list, but for Ruby). I haven’t been able to find one anywhere else. Is there such an animal (perhaps a duck)? 3. My signature is chosen randomly by a utility called “signify”. I swear I didn’t pick that sig block specifically for this message. Really. ---
**Author:** ![cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/cpeterson)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-nuby-and-mailing-lists/99863/2 "2006-07-26T01:36:53Z")
Chad P. wrote: > 1. [rubynuby.org](http://rubynuby.org) seems to be down. Am I the only one having problems > accessing it? I’m getting: ``` Application error ``` Rails application failed to start properly" > 1. I was at [rubynuby.org](http://rubynuby.org) because I was looking for a beginners’ Ruby > mailing list to which I could direct a friend (something perhaps > equivalent to the perl-beginners list, but for Ruby). I haven’t been > able to find one anywhere else. Is there such an animal (perhaps a > duck)? This list is open to all levels of Rubyists, including newbies. While there was at one time talk of splitting off a newbie list, the conclusion (I believe) was: who better to help the newbies than the people on this list? > 1. My signature is chosen randomly by a utility called “signify”. I > swear I didn’t pick that sig block specifically for this message. > Really. Mmmm. -Justin ---
**Author:** ![cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@cpeterson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/cpeterson)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-nuby-and-mailing-lists/99863/3 "2006-07-26T01:49:06Z")
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:34:42AM +0900, Justin C. wrote: > Chad P. wrote: > > > 1. [rubynuby.org](http://rubynuby.org) seems to be down. Am I the only one having problems > > accessing it? > > I’m getting: > > Application error > > Rails application failed to start properly" Same here. > people on this list? > Warning: this is going to be long-ish and rambling. I have been on and off this list since I first heard of Ruby a couple years ago. I seem to recall there being more newbie-friendly traffic on it last time than this time around. What I’m seeing is a very high density of discussion that, aside from solving installation problems, would be mostly gibberish to a newbie. One of the benefits of a newbie list (as I’ve discovered from offering what knowledge I have on the perl-beginners lists) is that almost all the traffic is something from which someone new to programming can learn. It’s a little disappointing for me to not have that option for something to offer to a new Rubyist. In fact, it’s a little disappointing for my sake as well: I learn a lot about Perl from thinking about how to answer some of the questions others ask, even when they get answered by someone else before I get around to it. This list clearly has the level of traffic to support more than one list. In fact, the high traffic is the reason I periodically unsubscribe: when Ruby falls off the top of my priority list from time to time, I start needing the inbox space again. This isn’t a complaint about the list, but it does make me think that a Ruby newbie list might be a good idea. I guess I must have missed the previous discussion of a potential Ruby list for newbies, or I might have supported the idea. Then again, maybe not: at the time, I didn’t have any experience with newbie programming lists, and didn’t know what was missing.