# Ruby List Roast - A Tentative Attempt

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [August 20, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061 "2009-08-20T08:40:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/1 "2009-08-20T08:40:02Z")

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Dear ruby list members

Ruby is great…no, it’s awesome! And you people make it even better by  
answering all those questions that Ruby users sometimes have. But you’re  
one funny bunch fore sure. After reading this list for a while, I’ve  
come to the following conclusions:

- The Japanese lot  
Dudes, you’re awesome…you created the whole language and all…but  
dang, you’re English grammar sucks! How can you possibly be smart enough  
to come up with a whole new language, but at the same time, be an epic  
failure at the one that is most widely used?

- Robert D.  
France and England always have been and always will be at loggerheads.  
You seem to be trying to change that by actually trying to understand  
the French. And use there language on this forum. Please! Some of us  
here hate French. Unlike you, we were forced to learn it in school. An  
experience that scarred me for life. And probably negatively impact my  
intelligence as well.

- Pascal J. Bouillon (oui?)  
You’re last name sounds like a variant of fondue. You’re persistence on  
comparing everything to Lisp, on the other hand, is much firmer. (By the  
way, did you somehow infect Robert D.?)

- James Edward G. II, King of Ruby Land  
The resident aristocrat. I do like your tutorial on M17N.

- 7stud  
It’s simple: first think, /then/ post. No, not the other way around,  
which will result in a mess - both here and in real life. Take it from  
me, I always make sure what I wrote makes sense before I post - which is  
why I end up never posting in the first place.

- David B.  
You’re…uhm…really good, I guess. Gee, there’s nothing much to say  
about you. Can’t even insult you based on a perceived lack of  
intelligence. You must therefore be lacking personality.

- Eleanor McH.  
You know, English is not my native language, so I was in the mistaken  
belief that you were a dude like the rest of us…until I saw a picture  
of you somewhere on the web…now, every time I read one of your posts,  
I must make an effort to replace that mental image of the random nerd  
with that of the cute chick physicist.

- Rick D.  
Just like I pictured Eleanor to be a dude, I imagined you to be in your  
20ies. Unlike Eleanor’s case, this might be flattering, though. Because,  
one day, I visit your profile on [workingwithrails.com](http://workingwithrails.com), and boom! goes my  
bubble. You’re old - probably could be my grandpa! So, what was it like  
to be a programmer before WWII? Had electricity even been invented at  
that time? Or did you have hamsters (or nerds) on wheels to power your  
computers?

- Park H.  
Jesus, you seem to know everything! I start reading a post, and I’m  
like: you’re so screwed, dude, there ain’t no easy solution to that  
problem for sure. But as soon as I read your name, I know there is a  
solution. You really make ruby look like a walk in the park - yes, pun  
/intended/.

So, yeah, that’s it! You really are a weired lot. But it would be much,  
much more boring without you. Sort of like a Microsoft forum.

Truly yours  
A Hopeless Loser & Ruby F.

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/2 "2009-08-20T08:53:58Z")

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dang, _you’re_ English grammar sucks!

😛

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/3 "2009-08-20T13:34:58Z")

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Hope Less[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> - Rick D.  
> Just like I pictured Eleanor to be a dude, I imagined you to be in your  
> 20ies. Unlike Eleanor’s case, this might be flattering, though. Because,  
> one day, I visit your profile on [workingwithrails.com](http://workingwithrails.com), and boom! goes my  
> bubble. You’re old - probably could be my grandpa! So, what was it like  
> to be a programmer before WWII? Had electricity even been invented at  
> that time? Or did you have hamsters (or nerds) on wheels to power your  
> computers?

When I was a kid I had to put my abacus together every morning using  
sticks and clay beads.

Now go finish your homework and then you can go out and play with your  
friends.

–  
Rick DeNatale

Blog: [http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/](http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/)  
Twitter: [http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale](http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale)  
WWR: [http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale](http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale)  
LinkedIn: [http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale](http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale)

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/4 "2009-08-20T16:10:41Z")

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I feel offended, you didn’t mention my name!

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/5 "2009-08-20T18:24:09Z")

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Hope Less wrote:

> to come up with a whole new language, but at the same time, be an epic
> 
> - Pascal J. Bouillon (oui?)  
> me, I always make sure what I wrote makes sense before I post - which is  
> of you somewhere on the web…now, every time I read one of your posts,  
> computers?
> 
> Truly yours  
> A Hopeless Loser & Ruby F.

This will be a test case for the question of whether humor and ruby mix.  
Or maybe it’s about THIS kind of humor …combined with ruby. After all  
this is a SERIOUS list. Must be the influence of all those Java folks,  
who of necessity drink their own kool aid. I sometimes think this list  
is a prime refuge for the Java toxified. So be it.

But, oh…the people you left off! Wow. I love who you included, but how  
about Ryan D. - the guy who is the source of fully 1/3 of gems  
currently available, and who cannot release one with releasing another  
20 at the same. He really ought to get a life, except that if he did it  
would decimate our libraries. Such a dilemma. However, the accompanying  
documentation, etc., strongly suggests that his 18th birthday is awfully  
close. Never mind. His productivity is simply without equal. So what if  
someone has to drive him from appointment to appointment?

And Dave T…first off the starting block again and again, in the  
area of making ruby accessible for newbies. I’m trying, but I’m having a  
little trouble finding where to apply the heat with this fellow. I don’t  
understand how any one person can know as much as he seems to, about the  
tiniest little pieces of Ruby. Best not to rock this boat too much  
either, huh?

Then there our anonymous Islamic friends, who post here from time to  
time. Not the serious professional ones, but the evangelical ones. You  
know who you are. A perfect example of witless irrelevance (somewhat  
like this post, perhaps). In any case, I hear that Ryan wants all such  
email forwarded to him, for judicious handling.

Well, it IS August. In the USA, this is sometimes referred to as the  
“silly season”. It comes right before school starts up again. Last  
chance to escape responsibility.

t.

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/6 "2009-08-20T23:26:13Z")

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Hope Less[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Dear ruby list members
> 
> - Robert D.  
> France and England always have been and always will be at loggerheads.  
> You seem to be trying to change that by actually trying to understand  
> the French. And use there language on this forum. Please! Some of us  
> here hate French. Unlike you, we were forced to learn it in school. An  
> experience that scarred me for life. And probably negatively impact my  
> intelligence as well.  
> Please read only my brilliant code and ignore my lousy French (well it  
> is better than my lousier English, but who cares ).  
> And do not dare talking about Rugby to me ;).

> - Pascal J. Bouillon (oui?)  
> You’re last name sounds like a variant of fondue. You’re persistence on  
> comparing everything to Lisp, on the other hand, is much firmer. (By the  
> way, did you somehow infect Robert D.?)  
> No I was sick before.
> - David B.  
> You’re…uhm…really good, I guess. Gee, there’s nothing much to say  
> about you. Can’t even insult you based on a perceived lack of  
> intelligence. You must therefore be lacking personality.  
> Nice try.  
> 20ies.  
> Did you miss that Rick worked with Kent Back, shame on YOU 😉

I liked your post, we all need to laugh about ourselves sometimes, I  
hope you will do that too when we take revenge 😉

Cheers  
Robert

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/7 "2009-08-21T16:09:35Z")

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM, James Edward G.  
II[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> effort to be kingly.  
> This is why my children will have SHA hashes for middle names.

-greg

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/8 "2009-08-21T15:59:02Z")

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On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:40 AM, Hope Less wrote:

> - James Edward G. II, King of Ruby Land  
> The resident aristocrat.

I’m glad you like my name.

You might like it less if it was yours though. “James G.” is so  
common where I live that if I use that name at the eye doctor I get  
the wrong glasses. Thus I use my full name just out of self defense  
and not in an effort to be kingly.

Of course, your parents seem to have stuck you with a far more  
hopeless label. 😉

> I do like your tutorial on M17N.

Glad to hear it.

James Edward G. II

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**Author:** ![hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hoplis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/hoplis)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-list-roast-a-tentative-attempt/174061/9 "2009-08-21T16:19:32Z")

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM, James Edward G.  
II[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> You might like it less if it was yours though. “James G.” is so common  
> where I live that if I use that name at the eye doctor I get the wrong  
> glasses. Thus I use my full name just out of self defense and not in an  
> effort to be kingly.

And I notice that you almost NEVER prepend the HRH to which you are  
entitled!

–  
Rick DeNatale

Blog: [http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/](http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/)  
Twitter: [http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale](http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale)  
WWR: [http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale](http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale)  
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