# Ruby forum is broken; stop using it until fixed

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [December 12, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820 "2007-12-12T15:48:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phrogz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820/1 "2007-12-12T15:48:28Z")

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[Ruby-Forum.com](http://Ruby-Forum.com) is acting as a one-way gateway to the ruby-talk mailing  
list and comp.lang.ruby newsgroup.

I have been wondering recently why I see 2 or 3 people answering the  
same question, getting no “thank you response”…and then someone else  
comes along, posts the same answer as one of them, and only they get  
responded to. The reason is that the original poster is not seeing those  
responses.

People are asking questions, getting lots of help…and then not seeing  
most of the answers.

For example, compare this thread (with 4 total posts):  
[http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/134789](http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/134789)

with a more official version (with 10 total posts):  
[http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse\_frm/thread/cdca47edb7f82316/0994dfc62aa6489a](http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse_frm/thread/cdca47edb7f82316/0994dfc62aa6489a)

(If someone from ruby-forum ever fixes the forum, maybe they can also  
make the oft-requested change to move the Ruby on Rails mailing list to  
the top of the forum list, so that new users confusing Rails with Ruby  
will see that and know to post there.)

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**Author:** ![phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phrogz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820/2 "2007-12-12T16:14:50Z")

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Gavin K. wrote:

> (If someone from ruby-forum ever fixes the forum, maybe they can also  
> make the oft-requested change to move the Ruby on Rails mailing list to  
> the top of the forum list, so that new users confusing Rails with Ruby  
> will see that and know to post there.)

The ruby-forum owner doesn’t read all the posts, but he does list his  
email address at the bottom of the page: ruby-forum (at) andreas-s (dot)  
net. In the past I’ve seen that he replies promptly to emails.

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**Author:** ![phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phrogz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820/3 "2007-12-12T16:18:55Z")

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Tim H. wrote:

> Gavin K. wrote:
> 
> > (If someone from ruby-forum ever fixes the forum, maybe they can also  
> > make the oft-requested change to move the Ruby on Rails mailing list to  
> > the top of the forum list, so that new users confusing Rails with Ruby  
> > will see that and know to post there.)
> 
> The ruby-forum owner doesn’t read all the posts, but he does list his  
> email address at the bottom of the page: ruby-forum (at) andreas-s (dot)  
> net. In the past I’ve seen that he replies promptly to emails.

Then I’ll give him another shot. I’ve sent (polite) email to that  
address three times now with no response. I had assumed s/he had  
abandoned the forum.

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**Author:** ![phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phrogz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820/4 "2007-12-12T18:36:07Z")

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I sent a polite e-mail to that address with no response also. I was  
requesting that he move the link to this forum further down the page.  
I think Ruby Forum is a monster out of control and we need to shoot  
that beast before it hurts somebody. What might once have been a handy  
way of unifying a small community has turned into a perptual spam  
generator.

–  
Giles B.

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Portfolio: [http://www.gilesgoatboy.org](http://www.gilesgoatboy.org)  
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**Author:** ![phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@phrogz](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phrogz)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-forum-is-broken-stop-using-it-until-fixed/122820/5 "2007-12-12T18:40:15Z")

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Giles B. wrote:

> I sent a polite e-mail to that address with no response also. I was  
> requesting that he move the link to this forum further down the page.  
> I think Ruby Forum is a monster out of control and we need to shoot  
> that beast before it hurts somebody. What might once have been a handy  
> way of unifying a small community has turned into a perptual spam  
> generator.

Hint:

you can filter out ruby-forum posts by checking for the following  
header:  
Sender: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid

I’m tempted to do so for quite some time.

Lionel
