# Ruby-community-announcements Mailing List

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [June 19, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929 "2008-06-19T21:51:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e47774/32.png) [@naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/naething)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/1 "2008-06-19T21:51:24Z")

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Hi folks,

As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to  
Ruby Community Announcements:

[http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-announcements](http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-announcements)

What is a Ruby community announcement? In my mind, it’s notice of a  
new release, a new book on Ruby, some new service available for  
Rubyists, and other things of the like. It doesn’t necessarily need  
to be non-commercial, but it should be ‘of community interest’. If  
you move your blog or start a new one, posting a link would be a  
community announcement. If you post a link to every blog post you  
write, you’re probably just being annoying.

I realized that ever since I stopped regularly reading RubyTalk, I’ve  
been missing out on the many great announcements here. I guess I have  
found myself still deeply interested in what everyone is ‘doing’ even  
if I can’t keep track of what everyone is saying now that the volume  
is so high.

If you like this idea, please sign up. If you don’t like this idea,  
just don’t sign up. I know this is a sensitive issue for some and if  
this new group never takes off, I don’t mind. I’m also not  
suggesting that people use this as the _only_ place for their  
announcements, I’ll still be sure to announce major releases and stuff  
on RubyTalk, and I think a lot of others will want to, too.

Anyway, hope that some folks find this useful. If you do, spread the  
word and start announcing your stuff on the list. I’m sorry for not  
discussing it here first, but I doubt we’d ever come to a consensus 😉

-greg

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**Author:** ![naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e47774/32.png) [@naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/naething)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/2 "2008-06-19T23:10:48Z")

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Might be even more useful if it auto CC’ed ruby talk, or had a one stop  
form for CC’ing various groups with the announcements.

Gregory B. wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> As an experiment, I created a Google Group dedicated specifically to  
> Ruby Community Announcements:
> 
> [http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-announcements](http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-community-announcements)

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**Author:** ![naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e47774/32.png) [@naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/naething)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/3 "2008-06-20T00:10:31Z")

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On Jun 19, 4:09 pm, Roger P. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Might be even more useful if it auto CC’ed ruby talk, or had a one stop  
> form for CC’ing various groups with the announcements.

Let’s see how it looks after a few weeks and then I might bring that  
discussion up here.

-greg

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**Author:** ![naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e47774/32.png) [@naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/naething)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/4 "2008-06-20T00:15:52Z")

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I’m not poo-pooing the idea, but I’ve always found that a filter / mail  
rule  
for “to:ruby-talk + subject:[ANN] or [ADV]” works pretty well (for some  
version of a mail program that would accept such wonky filter syntax).

2008/6/19 Roger P. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid):

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**Author:** ![naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e47774/32.png) [@naething](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/naething)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/5 "2008-06-20T00:56:55Z")

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Gregory B. wrote:

> to be non-commercial, but it should be ‘of community interest’. If  
> you move your blog or start a new one, posting a link would be a  
> community announcement. If you post a link to every blog post you  
> write, you’re probably just being annoying.
> 
> I realized that ever since I stopped regularly reading RubyTalk, I’ve  
> been missing out on the many great announcements here. I guess I have  
> found myself still deeply interested in what everyone is ‘doing’ even  
> if I can’t keep track of what everyone is saying now that the volume  
> is so high.

chris2 created an RSS feed that only server up r-t items that contain  
‘ann’ in the title.

I use that to catch things I miss in my scan of r-t topics.

> If you like this idea, please sign up. If you don’t like this idea,  
> just don’t sign up. I know this is a sensitive issue for some and if  
> this new group never takes off, I don’t mind. I’m also not  
> suggesting that people use this as the _only_ place for their  
> announcements, I’ll still be sure to announce major releases and stuff  
> on RubyTalk, and I think a lot of others will want to, too.

The issue for me is that there is no Ruby commons where everyone can  
intermingle. Instead, we have a collection of specialized lists, blog  
cliques, twitter flocks, #irc channels, and so on.

There is (or will be) no Ruby community, just assorted Ruby tribes.

I understand people have issues with the volume of posts and the  
signal/noise ratio, but if more and more people, especially “old  
timers”, keep ignoring ruby-talk, there’s no guidance for people just  
joining in.

–  
James B.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/6 "2008-06-20T15:08:20Z")

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His original message stated that this list is for people who _only_  
care about the ANN/ADV stuff and don’t care about the some of the  
mindless chatter and bike shed arguments that tend to pop up on this  
list.

I think if anything, he’s the smart one. 😛

–Jeremy

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Marcin R.  
[removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> For people that are tu stupid to create filter that moves everything that  
> contains [ANN] case-insensitive to separate folder

–  
[http://jeremymcanally.com/](http://jeremymcanally.com/)  
[http://entp.com](http://entp.com)

Read my books:  
Ruby in Practice ([Ruby in Practice](http://manning.com/mcanally/))  
My free Ruby e-book ([http://humblelittlerubybook.com/](http://humblelittlerubybook.com/))

Or, my blogs:

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>
> The owner of this domain has not yet uploaded their website.

[http://rubyinpractice.com](http://rubyinpractice.com)

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/7 "2008-06-21T20:21:51Z")

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Jeremy McAnally wrote:

> His original message stated that this list is for people who _only_  
> care about the ANN/ADV stuff and don’t care about the some of the  
> mindless chatter and bike shed arguments that tend to pop up on this  
> list.

Creating filter that removes everything else instead of moving to  
separate folder, is so so diffirent 😛

Of course my previous post was irony, i just want to point that creating  
more and more lists that i would have to keep track of, subscribe,  
check, is basically stupid idea if you have much simpler alternatives

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-community-announcements-mailing-list/140929/8 "2008-06-20T12:39:27Z")

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For people that are tu stupid to create filter that moves everything  
that contains [ANN] case-insensitive to separate folder
