# Ruby climbed up to the 13th place in the Tiobe index

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**Created:** [August 15, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-climbed-up-to-the-13th-place-in-the-tiobe-index/64777 "2006-08-15T14:18:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/f475e1/32.png) [@zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/zoat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-climbed-up-to-the-13th-place-in-the-tiobe-index/64777/1 "2006-08-15T14:18:48Z")

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In blitz interview with Bruce Tate, he says that does not know, use, or  
has an opinion on the Ruby language yet. But since this language  
climbed up to the 13th place in the Tiobe index, it deserves to be  
taken seriously.  
Tiobe Index  
[http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm](http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm)  
Blitz Interview: Can Ruby Live Without Rails?  
[http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/251986.htm](http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/251986.htm)

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**Author:** ![zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/f475e1/32.png) [@zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/zoat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-climbed-up-to-the-13th-place-in-the-tiobe-index/64777/2 "2006-08-15T14:18:56Z")

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Hi –

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, zoat wrote:

> In blitz interview with Bruce Tate, he says that does not know, use, or  
> has an opinion on the Ruby language yet.

Clarification: it’s the interviewer, Yakov Fain, who says he doesn’t  
know Ruby, not Bruce Tate.

> But since this language climbed up to the 13th place in the Tiobe  
> index, it deserves to be taken seriously.

Whoops, I started taking it seriously in 2000 – I guess I jumped the  
gun 🙂

David

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**Author:** ![zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/f475e1/32.png) [@zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/zoat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-climbed-up-to-the-13th-place-in-the-tiobe-index/64777/3 "2006-08-15T14:18:58Z")

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On 8/13/06, zoat [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> In blitz interview with Bruce Tate, he says that does not know, use, or  
> has an opinion on the Ruby language yet. But since this language  
> climbed up to the 13th place in the Tiobe index, it deserves to be  
> taken seriously.  
> Tiobe Index  
> [http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm](http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm)  
> Blitz Interview: Can Ruby Live Without Rails?  
> [http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/251986.htm](http://opensource.sys-con.com/read/251986.htm)

I just do not like these kind of ratings, I believe that they are  
manipulatory, defending the interest of certain persons/lobbies and are  
often very biased.  
Am I wrong on this one?  
I would appreciate any point of view.  
On one hand the site claims to define the ranking on available knowledge  
acceptance etc. OTH it does not give any definition of cretira and uses  
terms like Status that do not seem to be defined anywhere.  
Enough to make a notorious pessimist very, very sceptic about it. ☹

Cheers  
Robert

–  
Deux choses sont infinies : l’univers et la bÃªtise humaine ; en ce qui  
concerne l’univers, je n’en ai pas acquis la certitude absolue.

- Albert Einstein

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**Author:** ![zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/f475e1/32.png) [@zoat](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/zoat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-climbed-up-to-the-13th-place-in-the-tiobe-index/64777/4 "2006-08-15T14:18:58Z")

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quoth the Robert D.:

> I just do not like these kind of ratings, I believe that they are  
> manipulatory, defending the interest of certain persons/lobbies and are  
> often very biased.  
> Am I wrong on this one?

Well, I don’t know about the rankings being controlled by anyones  
interests,  
this page:  
[http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm](http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm)  
states the rankings are based on search engine hits, which I really  
don’t  
think is a useful metric for anything but anecdotal evidence. The  
whole ‘status’ ranking however does seem somewhat arbitrary, even after  
reading the description of it.

> I would appreciate any point of view.  
> On one hand the site claims to define the ranking on available knowledge  
> acceptance etc. OTH it does not give any definition of cretira and uses  
> terms like Status that do not seem to be defined anywhere.  
> Enough to make a notorious pessimist very, very sceptic about it. ☹

Yeah, I wouldn’t put too much stock in it…about as useful as a  
googlefight!

> Cheers  
> Robert

-d
