# Ruby and Terminal - why didn't anyone explain this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [April 21, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043 "2009-04-21T09:10:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/1 "2009-04-21T09:10:59Z")
I’m learning RoR. I’ve been using PHP for 6 years now. I bought the new Agile Web Dev With Rails book and it took me about 9 hours to get the first project going. No where did it, or anywhere else explain the whole terminal inputs. It just said to open your “shell”… What is the deal with those, why do I have to use them, and why can’t it be just simple text files like PHP? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/2 "2009-04-21T09:45:34Z")
On 21 Apr., 00:42, “removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I’m learning RoR. I’ve been using PHP for 6 years now. I bought the > new Agile Web Dev With Rails book and it took me about 9 hours to get > the first project going. No where did it, or anywhere else explain > the whole terminal inputs. It just said to open your “shell”… What is > the deal with those, why do I have to use them, and why can’t it be > just simple text files like PHP? Well, you do use “simple text files”, just like in PHP. The difference between PHP and Rails, though, is that the only thing you need to do in PHP is to download a package like xampp (e.g.) and just put your files in the right directory. In Rails, there is a predefined directory structure, so you’ll need to generate Rails projects _in the shell_. And you have to actively start the server _in the shell_ to view your application in the browser. Also when you generate models and controllers you go to _the shell_ and type the respective commands. As you can see, Rails uses the shell to stop you from repeating yourself and thereby it speeds up your development process. The reason why no one has explained this to you, could be because most Rails developers works in operating systems like Ubuntu (Linux) or Mac OS where the shell/terminal/command line is a completely natural place to be, in contrast to on Windows systems where most things are done via graphical interfaces. I hope you understand, and I also hope you’ll come to appreciate the power of the shell. – Best regards, David K. [http://twitter.com/perplect](http://twitter.com/perplect) ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/3 "2009-04-22T03:28:31Z")
On Apr 21, 10:04 am, Marnen Laibow-Koser \ wrote: > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > > > I’m learning RoR. I’ve been using PHP for 6 years now. > > […] > > It just said to open your “shell”… What is > > the deal with those, > > Are you trying to say that in 6 years of PHP development, you haven’t > touched a command line, and don’t even really know what one is? Wait till he finds out about source control… –Matt J. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/4 "2009-04-21T16:04:11Z")
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > I’m learning RoR. I’ve been using PHP for 6 years now. > […] > It just said to open your “shell”… What is > the deal with those, Are you trying to say that in 6 years of PHP development, you haven’t touched a command line, and don’t even really know what one is? How do you install modules, then? > why do I have to use them, You don’t. Rails just provides a bunch of shell commands to make your life easier. You could ignore them all if you really wanted to, although your productivity would suffer. > and why can’t it be > just simple text files like PHP? It is just simple text files. Whatever made you think otherwise? Note that some PHP frameworks (such as Symfony) take a similar approach to use of the command line. Does this help, or is there an issue here I’m not getting? ## Best, Marnen Laibow-Koser [http://www.marnen.org](http://www.marnen.org) removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/5 "2009-04-22T12:01:00Z")
Hmm… I just typed in, “script/server RAILS\_ENG=development” and it fixed my problems. Why would that be? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 11:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ruby-and-terminal-why-didnt-anyone-explain-this/166043/6 "2009-04-22T11:50:27Z")
Thanks a lot guys!.. I’m SLOWLY getting familiar with the shell. Maybe I should start another topic for this… but: My ruby isn’t working anymore! In the last few hours I deleted some random ruby files on my main user folder (mac OSX) because I think I accidentally installed a rails app there and wanted to get rid of the files. I also installed and reinstalled mysql. Since then, ruby is not working. No controllers are working at all, even old ones I had looked at before. On the homepage (localhost:3000) I get this message when I click the about link: “We’re sorry, but something went wrong.” Also when I visit my controller url I get this: “We’re sorry, but something went wrong.” Thanks for all the help!