# Repost: KCKCC redesign and RadiantCMS

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**Created:** [January 19, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/repost-kckcc-redesign-and-radiantcms/82347 "2007-01-19T16:29:29Z")\
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First, my apologies to those who are also on the Ruby On Rails Higher Ed  
list for reposting this. I thought you guys might find it interesting,  
and evidence that Radiant is ‘production-worthy’.

## Cheers, Sean

Jason,

Sure! I actually have a set of blog posts I want to write about building  
the site, but having just released it last week, we’re swamped with  
change requests and irate staff. (You know how it is!) But I’ll give  
you the sort-of-short version.

Using Radiant for the live site was not our first choice. We wanted to  
purchase a very expensive enterprise-level CMS, but the funding or the  
will to pay for it just wasn’t there. After we were forced to find an  
Open Source alternative, the only option that had most closely met our  
requirements was ezPublish. However, we quickly found that it was a  
pain to use and too inflexible (or too flexible? I’m not sure) and the  
performance would be abysmal. So in the end we chose Radiant, partly  
because of its ease-of-use, and partly because I had enough experience  
with it and with Rails to build anything extra we needed. We had also  
used Radiant for prototyping our navigation design for usability  
testing, so some of the team was familiar with it.  
Luckily, just before we began building the site, Radiant’s up-and-coming  
extension system came to a stage where it was workable, so I took the  
plunge. While the rest of the team worked on sanitizing content, I  
built several extensions and along the way found some bugs and submitted  
patches to the core. On the live site there are six extensions that I  
wrote or ported:

1. Events calendar - powers the academic calendar page and some dates  
here-and-there. It’s a basic CRUD application with Events belonging to  
multiple Calendars, etc. It implements basic tags for accessing the  
data that can be used in any page.
2. Expiry tags - just two tag definitions that allow you to have  
time-sensitive content. Based on my most recent blog post to  
[radiantcms.org](http://radiantcms.org).
3. Mailer - a port and modification of Matt McCray’s original Mailer  
behavior. This is in use ALL OVER the site. Except for very few cases,  
where there’s a form, it’s the Mailer extension.
4. LDAP/Personnel Directory - One of our major goals was to stop being  
responsible for keeping personnel data up-to-date on the site. So we  
worked with the IT people to get full-read access to the Netware  
directory. This is a combination CRUD/integration extension. I created  
saved or “canned” LDAP queries that could be run easily from a tag in  
any page. The admin interface is neat too because it uses Ajax to allow  
you to test your query as you are creating it.
5. Search - based on the old, original Search behavior, except I  
stripped out the live-preview functionality and added a little tag for  
truncating and stripping tags from results pages (so you can see a  
little snippet like Google shows). In the future, I’d like to port the  
acts\_as\_ferret version, as it will produce more reliable results.
6. Syllabi - One of the mainstays of the old site were the “course  
descriptions”. This extension combines a basic CRUD app (3 models -  
Prefix/Department, Course, and Syllabus (acts\_as\_attachment)) with two  
special page-types that assist in displaying the syllabi. One page just  
lists the prefixes with links to the virtual subpage which displays the  
individual courses and links to the syllabi. This one deserves a  
detailed blog post.

As I mentioned, constructing all of these made me even more intimate  
with the source code of Radiant. Thus, I found bugs and submitted these  
patches:

1. Added a Rake task for running tests in your extensions and fixed the  
generated test\_helper.rb
2. Fixed some Javascript issues with showing/hiding the slug/breadcrumbs  
in the Page edit view.
3. Factored out the SiteMap Javascript class into a separate file,  
rather than being at the top of the template in the Page edit view.

Just last week, John L. accepted me to the core team, so I’ll be  
squashing more bugs in the future.

Now, the big problem everyone has with Rails apps is how to deploy.  
Because I had tried it out and loved it, we went with Litespeed server.  
It’s practically a no-brainer to set up Rails applications and its speed  
executing Rails and PHP scripts is legendary — something like 30%  
faster than FastCGI! It’s been awesome having a web-based admin that  
makes sense and is easy to use, too. So far, we have had NO problems  
with it. Probably the best part is no zombie FCGI processes!

So, it looks like I made the short story long. Overall, Radiant has  
worked beautifully for us. Our whole team has enjoyed using it, and  
it’s like night-and-day from what we used to do. I would highly  
recommend it to others with this caveat: Radiant is not at the stage  
where people who are not especially computer and web-savvy should be  
entering content. Although it is a boon for web developers and  
designers, it would scare away the poor Math department secretary. It  
also has a long way to go in terms of providing flexible  
user-privileges, although I could see an extension handling that. But  
if you have a ticket/change-request system already, it will make edits  
that much faster because you don’t have to FTP them up to the server.  
The only other thing that I think it lacks is a nice asset-management  
interface, but there are a few extensions out there for it and I have  
one of my own up my sleeve.

In terms of Radiant’s longevity, who can say? I think it is gaining  
momentum, but even if it weren’t I wouldn’t worry as much because it is  
open-source. Moving to something else in the future is always going to  
be painful, but we felt Radiant’s hands-off approach to managing content  
would ease a transition because the content is so close to the rendered  
page.

Hope this answers your questions…

Cheers,

Sean C.  
Web Services, KCKCC  
[http://www.kckcc.edu/](http://www.kckcc.edu/)

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Sean,  
Congratulations on finishing the KCKCC site redesign! If you have a  
few minutes, would you mind sharing a bit on how it went? I see that  
you used RadiantCMS and I’ve seen your posts on the Radiant blog, so  
I’d like to hear about your use of Radiant: how well it’s worked, how  
you’ve extended it, how content creators have accepted it, etc. Would  
you recommend it to others? Where does it fall short? Is it something  
you predict will be around for a long while (increasing momentum) or  
will it die off in a few years and require a painful transition to  
something else?

Hope you don’t mind sharing your experience with this group. Thanks in  
advance!

Jason G.  
Eastern Mennonite University
