# Rendering layout not in apps/layout?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rendering-layout-not-in-apps-layout/144181>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [July 26, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rendering-layout-not-in-apps-layout/144181 "2008-07-26T08:24:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![goodwill](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/ac8455/32.png) [@goodwill](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/goodwill)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rendering-layout-not-in-apps-layout/144181/1 "2008-07-26T08:24:19Z")

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I can see render :file can do so for the template file, but how about  
the layout? Possible to use a layout file outside apps/layout?