# Rel=nofollow or akismet

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [August 9, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031 "2006-08-09T12:58:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kulpreet_S)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031/1 "2006-08-09T12:58:32Z")

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Hi guys,

My site ( [http://shunya.in](http://shunya.in) ) recently started receiving some spam and I  
had  
ignored the issue till it became a problem, and I guess it is becoming a  
problem now.

I looked around on suggested ways to address the problem and found two  
systems - CAPTCH and Akismet. I consider both of them in this email  
along  
with the reasons why I am debating using neither of them. Then I ask for  
your  
advice.

CAPTCHA ( [http://dev.2750flesk.com/validates\_captcha/](http://dev.2750flesk.com/validates_captcha/) ) will keep bots  
out,  
but what if some rascals are posting comments just to get a high google  
page  
rank. I think these guys are manually posting the “anonymous comments”.  
So  
CAPTCHA wont solve my problem.

Akismet ( [http://akismet.com/](http://akismet.com/) ) will solve my problem if their spam  
detector  
is good. I am close to using it, but wanted to get your opinion about  
it. Has  
anyone used it? Is it as good as they want us to believe.

Now I propose an alternative solution -

What if I put “rel-nofollow” in all links that are submitted via  
comments, and  
say I will do so right next to the comment form. Thus telling spammers,  
“you  
are welcome to post spam, but it will not help your cause.” Will it  
discourage spammers. What do you think?

I have used the same solution on my webalizer info page  
([shunya.in is available for purchase - Sedo.com](http://en.shunya.in/webalizer/index.html)), which is public. I has  
started  
getting “referral spam”, and in response I stopped posting “referrer”  
part of  
the webalizer results. Seems to have drastically reduced referral spam.

-kp

–  
Home is where .emacs is

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**Author:** ![Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kulpreet_S)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031/2 "2006-08-09T15:07:42Z")

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Hi there,

On 8/9/06, Kulpreet S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Now I propose an alternative solution -
> 
> What if I put “rel-nofollow” in all links that are submitted via comments, and  
> say I will do so right next to the comment form. Thus telling spammers, “you  
> are welcome to post spam, but it will not help your cause.” Will it  
> discourage spammers. What do you think?

I don’t think spammers actually read your page. So no it won’t stop  
them…  
A _good_ CAPTCHA should do the trick. It’s what MSN/Google etc use.

Eaden

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**Author:** ![Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kulpreet_S)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031/3 "2006-08-15T14:19:29Z")

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On 09/08/06, Kulpreet S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> CAPTCHA ( [http://dev.2750flesk.com/validates\_captcha/](http://dev.2750flesk.com/validates_captcha/) ) will keep bots  
> out,  
> but what if some rascals are posting comments just to get a high google  
> page  
> rank. I think these guys are manually posting the “anonymous comments”. So  
> CAPTCHA wont solve my problem.

I doubt anyone is manually posting spam, but I’d be interested in  
finding  
out what you base your claim on.

What if I put “rel-nofollow” in all links that are submitted via  
comments,

> and  
> say I will do so right next to the comment form. Thus telling spammers,  
> “you  
> are welcome to post spam, but it will not help your cause.” Will it  
> discourage spammers. What do you think?

rel=nofollow hasn’t worked. If anything, my blogspam increased since  
adding  
it. It stopped almost completely, when I put in CAPTCHA. YMMV though.

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**Author:** ![Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@Kulpreet\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Kulpreet_S)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rel-nofollow-or-akismet/102031/4 "2006-08-15T14:19:59Z")

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On Monday 14 August 2006 03:35, Hasan D. wrote:

> I doubt anyone is manually posting spam, but I’d be interested in finding  
> out what you base your claim on.

Yup. I was wrong. The rascal is using scripts, what was I thinking? 🙂

> it. It stopped almost completely, when I put in CAPTCHA. YMMV though.  
> Well I now have rel=nofollow _and_ Akismet.

Akismet is giving brilliant performance, got one “escaped spam” in  
almost a  
week. And the response times are low enough to be non-intrusive.

I just hope their systems scale well in future with increasing user base  
and  
potential attacks by spammers.

-kp

> –  
> Cheers,  
> Hasan D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

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Home is where .emacs is
