# Regarding trolls, spammers, noise-makers, and such

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/regarding-trolls-spammers-noise-makers-and-such/186664>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [April 10, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/regarding-trolls-spammers-noise-makers-and-such/186664 "2010-04-10T23:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/regarding-trolls-spammers-noise-makers-and-such/186664/1 "2010-04-10T23:26:00Z")

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A plea:

First, one person’s troll/spammer/idiot is another’s savant, but mostly  
people have a similar appreciation for when someone is just being a  
dick.

Second, efforts to flat-out ban or block people from ruby-talk/Ruby  
Forum/comp.lang.ruby, whatever, are either non-existent or sufficiently  
unreliable.

So, please, when you realize that someone is spamming or trolling or  
whatever negative thing, do this: Nothing.

- Do not argue
- Do not condemn
- Do not reply

It only makes things worse.

Instead, let such threads die as fast as possible.

If you still feel compelled to do something, start a new thread with an  
interesting and valuable topic to up the signal[0].

Thanks,

James B.

[0] I’m unsure whether this post is self-consistent or not. I’ll leave  
that to the ghost of Bertrand Russell.

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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/regarding-trolls-spammers-noise-makers-and-such/186664/2 "2010-04-10T23:48:15Z")

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James,

You know M.F. and he has seen much of this work… our first project  
together (the Bicycle domain) worked out beautifully. The 2nd project  
did not go to completion, but he saw all the pieces working. The  
whole Ru’id thing was only in the background of the project so I don’t  
want to make it sound like MF was seeing too much of that. However MF  
knows that I’m a live person and that what he asked for was paid and  
so on. He’s the single brightest programmer I have ever “known” as  
such.

Since the 2nd project didn’t fly I have concentrated on this whole  
“ru’id” thing and it has worked out nicely. In fact it has worked  
better than expected and the performance of 2,000 “firings” per second  
seems more than adequate to do some exciting Ruby things.

I trusted MF 100% with all the code and would have no problem doing so  
again.

Thunk

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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/regarding-trolls-spammers-noise-makers-and-such/186664/3 "2010-04-11T03:04:08Z")

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thunk wrote:

> James,
> 
> You know M.F. and he has seen much of this work… our first project  
> together (the Bicycle domain) worked out beautifully. The 2nd project  
> did not go to completion, but he saw all the pieces working. The  
> whole Ru’id thing was only in the background of the project so I don’t  
> want to make it sound like MF was seeing too much of that. However MF  
> knows that I’m a live person and that what he asked for was paid and  
> so on. He’s the single brightest programmer I have ever “known” as  
> such.
> 
> Since the 2nd project didn’t fly I have concentrated on this whole  
> “ru’id” thing and it has worked out nicely. In fact it has worked  
> better than expected and the performance of 2,000 “firings” per second  
> seems more than adequate to do some exciting Ruby things.
> 
> I trusted MF 100% with all the code and would have no problem doing so  
> again.
> 
> Thunk

Well isn’t that a slap in the face?! Someone spam his email. Give him  
some of his own medicine. (Sorry I know the OP requested not to reply to  
spammers but seriously. I don’t think that’ll stop him. (He probably  
enjoys that))
