# Re: Wiki recommendations? (Reviving the old Instiki?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [June 14, 2006, 7:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322 "2006-06-14T07:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 7:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/1 "2006-06-14T07:25:42Z")
On 6/13/06, Matt L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jim W. wrote: > > > Both RuWiki and Instiki are good choices for an easy to setup wiki. > > Instiki is no longer easy to set up, it’s now a long troublesome > installation that I wasn’t able to make work. It’s unfortunate. Instiki used to be a ‘no-brainer’ to setup. It may not have been the most feature-ful wiki out there, but for internal and personal use it was great. Now I think they’ve built it on Rails and I think that seems to be overkill - at any rate, it’s no longer so easy to setup and use. You might want to try to find an older version of Instiki that isn’t based on Rails. I wonder if the older, pre-Rails Instiki could be revived and maintained as a completely seperate project. Phil ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/2 "2006-06-14T08:02:43Z")
Phil T. wrote: > not have been the most feature-ful wiki out there, but for internal > and personal use it was great. Now I think they’ve built it on Rails > and I think that seems to be overkill - at any rate, it’s no longer so > easy to setup and use. > > You might want to try to find an older version of Instiki that isn’t > based on Rails. I wonder if the older, pre-Rails Instiki could be > revived and maintained as a completely seperate project. You can get pre-Rails Instiki (0.9.2) using RubyGems: gem install instiki --version “\< 0.10” I’m sure that branch could be revived and maintained separately, but you’d need someone to take it on. Cheers, Dave ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/3 "2006-06-14T14:22:51Z")
On 6/14/06, Dave B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Phil T. wrote: > > > On 6/13/06, Matt L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jim W. wrote: > > > > > > > Both RuWiki and Instiki are good choices for an easy to setup wiki. > > > > > > Instiki is no longer easy to set up, it’s now a long troublesome > > > installation that I wasn’t able to make work. That’s odd, I don’t remember any problems and I am running 0.10.2. I just did a gem install AFAIR. This was one of the reasons I migrated all my wikis to Instiki. ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/4 "2006-06-14T16:01:57Z")
Phil T. wrote: > not have been the most feature-ful wiki out there, but for internal > and personal use it was great. Now I think they’ve built it on Rails > and I think that seems to be overkill - at any rate, it’s no longer so > easy to setup and use. > > You might want to try to find an older version of Instiki that isn’t > based on Rails. I wonder if the older, pre-Rails Instiki could be > revived and maintained as a completely seperate project. > > Phil for personal use see [http://www.tiddlywiki.com/](http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) and it’s derivatives/ ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/5 "2006-06-14T15:17:57Z")
> > > > Instiki is no longer easy to set up, it’s now a long troublesome > > > > installation that I wasn’t able to make work. > > That’s odd, I don’t remember any problems and I am running 0.10.2. I > just did a gem install AFAIR. This was one of the reasons I migrated > all my wikis to Instiki. 0.10.x has upgraded to rails for the view/controller part - it still does not use ActiveRecord but used Madeleine. The switch to AR came in 0.11, which is why it hasn’t been gemified. ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/6 "2006-06-15T05:52:07Z")
On 6/14/06, Assaph M. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > What were the issues with Madeleine which caused it to be replaced with AR? Phil ---
**Author:** ![philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@philthompson](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/philthompson)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2006, 6:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-wiki-recommendations-reviving-the-old-instiki/63322/7 "2006-06-15T06:23:16Z")
> What were the issues with Madeleine which caused it to be replaced with AR? Speaking from personal perspective, it’s was a general instability especially on Windows. I think the new madeleine releases aim to fix those. There was also a very wierd bug, where zipped snapshot files - generated with Ruby zlib bindings - sometimes could not be opened with zlib based libraries, but will be openable with other zip utilities. It was a rare hapenning and am not sure where the blame lies, but it was annpying none the less. Regardless of the above, I think the major drive was to make Instiki more of a rails-app in general, somewhat scrificing the gem releases until it’s sorted out. However the project seems to have halted on new features (maintainers busy like the rest of us I imagine), so this was left as is. Please do not take the above as bad critiques of those pieces of software. As a maintainer of FOSS projects myself, I know how hard it is to support them over time. The above two are both fine examples of software in general.