# Re: Valentina Database Now Supports Ruby on Rails on Mac OS X **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [December 15, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-valentina-database-now-supports-ruby-on-rails-on-mac-os-x/123275 "2007-12-15T20:10:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ruslan\_Z](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@Ruslan\_Z](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ruslan_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-valentina-database-now-supports-ruby-on-rails-on-mac-os-x/123275/1 "2007-12-15T20:10:21Z")
Hi Peter, Hi Greg, Hi All, Thank you, Peter, for your comments about Valentina database. 🙂 Sorry it have take so long from us to move Valentina to Ruby world. And actually we have yet need do few important steps to enable all unique Valentina features you also mention. I am going spend few nearest weeks on the RUBY-CORE list to get help from core-developers of ROR. I hope they will be friendly. 🙂 > == 3 of 4 == > Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 2:50 pm > From: Peter De Berdt > > On 14 Dec 2007, at 23:12, Greg D. wrote: > > And this is cheaper than MySQL and PostgreSQL and SQLite by how much? > > Having no affiliation with this company whatsoever and have to say > this is a bit unfair towards this excellent db. It’s true it’s not > free, but some people like paying for the benefits of a database. To Greg. Well, do you all measure by price and money ??? What price of your life? My? Our children? 🙂 Or another example. One Valentina user have switch to Valentina from mySQL his ORM framework, which is EOF-like, and made for REALbasic. This user have report us that some complex query mySQL do in 30 minutes, Valentina do in 30 seconds. For Valentina 3.5.2 (upcoming) we have made it even faster to near 1 second. ``` 30 minutes vs 1 second. 1800 times faster. ``` How much money you need to pay to get mySQL soooo fast? :^) * * * You also mention SqlLite and Postgre… DISCLAIMER: Well, I am not going start any wars here, please DO NOT respond to my following paragraph. It just expresses MY EXPIRIENCE for the last 5-8 years. Just a my private info. Valentina developers usually are developers who are NOT satisfied with all these mentioned dbs. They come to Valentina and tell us own stories. Some of them are here: [http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials](http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials) I have never hear that SqlLite is faster of mySQL for real-world dbs. And I have hear only once that Postgre was faster mySQL for some complex many CPU system, but usually in comparison the say something like: “Postgre comparing to mySQL is like a tortilla”. Again no need argue for your favorite tools. All such “wars” at last of end finishes with agree that: ``` * choose right tools for your tasks. :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ``` – Best regards, Ruslan Z. VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > **[Welcome to Paradigma Software, makers of Valentina Studio Pro](https://valentina-db.com/en/)** > > Welcome to Paradigma Software, makers of Valentina Studio Pro [I feel the need: the need for speed] ---
**Author:** ![Ruslan\_Z](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@Ruslan\_Z](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ruslan_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-valentina-database-now-supports-ruby-on-rails-on-mac-os-x/123275/2 "2007-12-27T21:36:04Z")
On Dec 15, 1:09 pm, Ruslan Z. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > ToGreg. > > Well, do you all measure by price and money ??? Yes. Why on earth would I want to spend money on closed source software when I don’t have to? > One Valentina user have switch to Valentina from mySQL his ORM framework, > which is EOF-like, and made for REALbasic. This user have report us that > some complex query mySQL do in 30 minutes, Valentina do in 30 seconds. For > Valentina 3.5.2 (upcoming) we have made it even faster to near 1 second. > > ``` > 30 minutes vs 1 second. > 1800 times faster. > > ``` My experience with benchmarks is that any of them can be tuned to look good in a particular situation. For example your particular case seems to be the “EOF-like” variety, clearly an edge case for which Valentina is specifically tuned. > How much money you need to pay to get mySQL soooo fast? :^) I don’t pay any money to use MySQL and it’s much, much faster than I actually need it to be. > Valentina developers usually are developers who are NOT satisfied with all > these mentioned dbs. They come to Valentina and tell us own stories. Some of > them are here: > [http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials](http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/testimonials) That’s great but as long as Valentina is closed source I won’t even try it, much less pay money to use it or advise my company to use it. Welcome to the future of software. > I have never hear that SqlLite is faster of mySQL for real-world dbs. And I > have hear only once that Postgre was faster mySQL for some complex many CPU > system, but usually in comparison the say something like: “Postgre comparing > to mySQL is like a tortilla”. I don’t really know why you want to stay on this speed tangent when the real issue here is spamming the list with an off-topic ad for a closed source project. Get over yourself and your “fast” database and let people discover the project through Google like normal. I’m sure there are billions of developers searching for a “faster than anything out there” database right this minute.