# Re: Ruby's role in future operating systems **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [June 9, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967 "2006-06-09T23:23:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/1 "2006-06-09T23:23:08Z")
In an inspired moment the other night, I thought it would be soooo cooool to have a command shell with ruby syntax. The I started getting even crazier, and thought, what about a ruby interpreter as an o/s kernel… It may have only sounded cool because I was drunk, though. sd ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/2 "2006-06-09T23:52:20Z")
On 6/9/06, DEBAUN, STEVE [Seminis/2400] [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > In an inspired moment the other night, I thought it would be soooo cooool to > have a command shell with ruby syntax. FYI: [http://rubyforge.org/projects/rush/](http://rubyforge.org/projects/rush/) > The I started getting even crazier, > and thought, what about a ruby interpreter as an o/s kernel… That might be taking things too far, but I could certainly imagine kernel extensions or system services written in Ruby, but it might need to be some type of limited interpreter or kept in a sandbox, just in case. Ryan ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/3 "2006-06-10T05:49:23Z")
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Ryan L. wrote: > That might be taking things too far, but I could certainly imagine > kernel extensions or system services written in Ruby, but it might > need to be some type of limited interpreter or kept in a sandbox, just > in case. I worked with QNX a number of years ago. Amazing system, the kernel was 13K. Everything else ran externally and communicated via a very simple message protocol. It really rocked! Ruby would plug into something like that extremely well. – Matt It’s not what I know that counts. It’s what I can remember in time to use. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/4 "2006-06-11T03:21:12Z")
DEBAUN, STEVE [Seminis/2400] wrote: > In an inspired moment the other night, I thought it would be soooo cooool to > have a command shell with ruby syntax. The I started getting even crazier, > and thought, what about a ruby interpreter as an o/s kernel… > > It may have only sounded cool because I was drunk, though. > > sd How is a command shell with Ruby syntax different from “irb”? > > > forked from Atheos) for now uses Ruby for at least a couple > > > > 1. [http://haiku-os.org](http://haiku-os.org) – M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > **[世界杯竞猜彩票-世界杯官网竞猜（集团）有限公司](http://www.linuxcapacityplanning.com/)** > > 世界杯竞猜彩票一直以来遵守商业道德，世界杯官网竞猜坚持诚信为本，保证诚实经营。世界杯竞猜彩票先后成为安徽省电子商务协会理事单位、安徽省网商协会会员单位、合肥市电子商务协会理事单位、合肥市服务外包行业协会会员单位、安徽省云计算产业促进会会员单位。世界杯官网竞猜一直保持良好的技术及服务态度，更好地为客户服务。 ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/5 "2006-06-11T22:09:34Z")
It’s not, unless I’ve misunderstood something. In fact, you’d only need a ~/.irbrc with some shortcuts for commonly used shell stuff, and bam! - a Ruby shell. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 3:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/6 "2006-06-11T03:49:18Z")
DEBAUN, STEVE [Seminis/2400] wrote: > In an inspired moment the other night, I thought it would be soooo > cooool to > have a command shell with ruby syntax. I took a stab at such a think a while back, the plan was to be able to inline shell commands in ruby so you could use ruby for the if’s and loops but type shell commands pretty naturally. I kinda had some stuff working, but without a proper ruby parser in ruby it’s pretty tricky… Another idea I’ve been bouncing around in my skull is a ports/pkgsrc/portage style package manager in ruby. I kinda even specced out my ideas here: [http://www.cataclysm-software.net/vag/pkgman/pkgmgr-spec2.txt](http://www.cataclysm-software.net/vag/pkgman/pkgmgr-spec2.txt) (still a WIP). I just don’t have time to actually do any implementation though ☹ BTW - sorry for posting from ruby forum, too lazy to resubscribe to the ML… Andrew ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/7 "2006-06-12T17:26:57Z")
| ls -l _.rb | should work without doing ls ‘-l’, '_.rb’ | but once you start typing something like | | if cond | | then it should pick up on the fact you are writing a ruby script now | and not calling the ‘if’ binary with an argument of cond. Yes, i’m agree. – Upper reality \>oftware. Dave - Skp Core (skp-it.eu). – Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: [http://www.email.it/f](http://www.email.it/f) Sponsor: Tutta la musica che vuoi a portata di click! - Entra in [www.radiosnj.com](http://www.radiosnj.com) Clicca qui: [http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?midQ80&d](http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?midQ80&d)-6 ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-rubys-role-in-future-operating-systems/62967/8 "2006-06-11T22:34:49Z")
On Jun 11, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Simen E. wrote: > > > have a command shell with ruby syntax. The I started getting > > > even crazier, > > > and thought, what about a ruby interpreter as an o/s kernel… > > > > > > It may have only sounded cool because I was drunk, though. > > > > > > sd > > > > How is a command shell with Ruby syntax different from “irb”? Please don’t top post. Anyway, I think what people want is not a command shell with ruby syntax, but a command shell with mixed-syntax that would ‘do the right thing’. i.e. ls -l _.rb should work without doing ls ‘-l’, '_.rb’ (or even ls ‘-l \*.rb’) but once you start typing something like if cond then it should pick up on the fact you are writing a ruby script now and not calling the ‘if’ binary with an argument of cond.