# Re: ruby spot it

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [September 21, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498 "2006-09-21T12:33:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498/1 "2006-09-21T12:33:23Z")

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I guess, that right now, the motivation would be the same like answering  
such questions here. But maybe i can find some others … 😉 But the  
main idea is, that other beginners correct them and learn from the  
errors.

“Tim B.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) schrieb am 21.09.2006 11:52:

> - where professionals and other noobs can answer them and maybe discuss them

What sort of motivation would a “professional” have to go to a  
beginner’s site to go about correcting beginner’s errors without the  
expected win of maybe being able to discuss his or her own problems?  
-tim

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498/2 "2006-09-21T18:10:32Z")

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removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote:

> I guess, that right now, the motivation would be the same like answering  
> such questions here. But maybe i can find some others … 😉 But the main  
> idea is, that other beginners correct them and learn from the errors.

Basically a good idea, but there are lots of beginner threads here, and  
just  
as many helpful answers. It might not be such a good idea to have  
beginners  
answer beginners’ questions, for a reason that should be obvious.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498/3 "2006-09-22T08:36:32Z")

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> Basically a good idea, but there are lots of beginner threads here, and just  
> as many helpful answers. It might not be such a good idea to have beginners  
> answer beginners’ questions, for a reason that should be obvious.

I believe it’s a “tragedy of the commons” type problem. The  
“professionals” hang out here for the interesting stuff and answer  
beginner questions occasionally. There’s really no motivation for the  
“professional” to browse a pure beginner’s forum and while the  
beginners can answer each other’s questions, soon you’ll have  
beginners who want answers from “professionals”, crossposting will  
follow, beginners will be rudely shown the door and sent back to the  
beginner’s forum. Everyone will start yelling at each other and  
pandemonium will ensue.

I wouldn’t risk it.

-tim

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498/4 "2006-09-22T12:56:56Z")

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On 9/21/06, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
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> I guess, that right now, the motivation would be the same like answering  
> such questions here. But maybe i can find some others … 😉 But the main  
> idea is, that other beginners correct them and learn from the errors.

Well, there’s always the most straightforward motivation of all: money.  
Some  
time ago I heard about a site called [qunu.com](http://qunu.com) (for a giggle, say it out  
loud  
in French) that offered experienced people money to answer noob (and not  
so  
noob) questions. I haven’t followed it. Does anyone know how it’s  
working  
out? A quick look at their home page shows sections for java, python and  
PHP  
but not Ruby.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-ruby-spot-it/69498/5 "2006-09-22T15:09:12Z")

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On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Tim B. wrote:

> There’s really no motivation for the  
> “professional” to browse a pure beginner’s forum and while the  
> beginners can answer each other’s questions

Pat Eyler and I were discussing this yesterday.

I was on the Perl Beginner’s mailing list for years and I can tell  
you multiple smart people were regulars there. I can’t tell you why  
they were all there, but my reason was that it felt good to help  
people just like others did for me when I was learning. I’m pretty  
sure some liked helping there because they could teach good Perl  
habits to the newcomers.

Your theory is sound, but the professionals might just surprise you.

James Edward G. II
