# Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by M

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [October 5, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189 "2006-10-05T23:05:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/1 "2006-10-05T23:05:52Z")

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[For some reason, the newsgroup server seems to not have distributed  
the messages yet. Thus posting via groups-google now. first message was  
from 2006-09-27, second message from 2006-09-28, both with a CC to Andy  
Singleton]

Ilias L. wrote:

> > person to the Breakout project under the user-name “lazaridis\_com”  
> > my original code, tickets and wiki pages):  
> > You have removed a few (not all) of my commits from the repository…
> 
> for your convenience, here is a list:
> 
> [http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/timeline?from=08%2F05%2F06&daysback=22&changeset=on&update=Update](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/timeline?from=08%2F05%2F06&daysback=22&changeset=on&update=Update)

Mr. Singleton,

within privat email (2006-09-28), you’ve replied that you’ve looked at  
the list and removed the original code. Additionally, you stated that  
it will be deployed after testing (to the production server).

It’s a small amount of code (and configuration-file changes), so why do  
you need time for this simple task?

After waiting one further week, I ask you once more to revert the  
commits from the repository and from the production server(s) (where my  
contributions are still active):

Possibly missed during last revert:

[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1323](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1323)

Not reverted:

[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1316](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1316)

[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1326](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1326)  
[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1327](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1327)

[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1328](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1328)  
[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1329](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1329)

you do _not_ need to revert those commits (as they’ve been overridden  
by the update or contain irrelevant commits):

[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1313](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1313)  
[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1314](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1314)  
[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1315](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1315)  
[http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1330](http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1330)

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I wish you good luck in further adopting “Open Source Practices” whilst  
bringing them to “commercial software development”.

Hopefully your clients are aware of what can happen within public  
projects: a public confrontation.

I am just one individual - imagine what happens if a whole community  
detects an abuse…!

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One final tip:

If you edit manually posts / your writings on a infrastructure under  
your control ([assembla.com](http://assembla.com)), whilst adding messages which you’ve  
previously posted::

“Also, I donâ??t want your code. I will replace any code that you  
wrote.”  
[http://assembla.com/flows/show\_comment/a\_Q598si0r26njaaeP0Qfc#showReply=false](http://assembla.com/flows/show_comment/a_Q598si0r26njaaeP0Qfc#showReply=false)

do not forget one thing:

The internet-caches (like e.g. google cache):

“Also, I donâ??t want your code. I will replace any code that you  
wrote, that is not covered by the GPL licensing that applies to our  
Trac code, if I can find any.”  
[http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:15NB7Z3ufJIJ:tools.assembla.com/breakout/ticket/484+Simply:+what’s+going+on+here%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1](http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:15NB7Z3ufJIJ:tools.assembla.com/breakout/ticket/484+Simply:+what%27s+going+on+here%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1)

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Note to readers:

You can find the whole case here:

[http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Assembla](http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Assembla)

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/2 "2006-10-05T23:41:58Z")

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“Ilias L.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote in message  
news:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid…

> 

\<snip - a bunch of back-and-forth correspondence of no interest to  
anyone  
here whatsoever\>

> .

–  
[http://lazaridis.com](http://lazaridis.com)

WHAT IS THIS CRAP DOING ON THIS NEWSGROUP???!!! IT IS UNWANTED AND  
UNWELCOME!!!

If you want to make some sort of public notice of your aggrievement with  
Assembla, Breakout, Mr. Singleton, whatever, take out an ad in the  
newspaper!

No one here is interested in your soap opera.

– Paul McGuire

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/3 "2006-10-06T00:12:00Z")

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Seconded. Looks like viral marketing for either Lazaridis or Assembla to  
me. Any way this spam can be rejected from the ML and whatever it’s  
gatewayed to or something?

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/4 "2006-10-06T01:02:02Z")

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Paul McGuire wrote:

> Assembla, Breakout, Mr. Singleton, whatever, take out an ad in the  
> newspaper!
> 
> No one here is interested in your soap opera.
> 
> – Paul McGuire

please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers  
(archives).

I admit it is difficult to detect that this post is in-topic.

But it is.

And the crosspost is valid, too.

The key for it’s validity is within those two topics (to which the  
original post connects):

[http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host](http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host)  
[http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License](http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License)  
[http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Copyright](http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Copyright)

I should have posted them immediately.

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/5 "2006-10-06T01:12:03Z")

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On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 07:10 +0900, David V. wrote:

> Seconded. Looks like viral marketing for either Lazaridis or Assembla to  
> me. Any way this spam can be rejected from the ML and whatever it’s  
> gatewayed to or something?

Indeed. We don’t need private license disputes (I think that’s what it  
is) flooding a publicly archived mailing list.

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**Author:** ![Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@Ilias\_L](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Ilias_L)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/re-host-assembla-inc-breakout-copyright-violation-by-m/71189/6 "2006-10-06T01:02:03Z")

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Ilias L. wrote:

> please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers  
> (archives).

He may not be speaking for all of them, but he’s speaking for the vast  
majority. You are a consummate pest.
