# Rails Zero **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [December 13, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254 "2006-12-13T17:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/1 "2006-12-13T17:12:46Z")
I had a dream last night. It looked something like this: The Rails Zero Web D. Environment Why Rails Zero? No installation No configuration No gem/dependency/firewall/proxy issues No database install/configuration Geographic and platform independent…just needs a browser and an internet connection. What Rails Zero provides? .An always available, world accessible Rails development environment for you and your development team. .An ajax-enabled, web 2.0 Rails IDE (written in Ruby on Rails of course!!) .Code editor includes syntax highlighting, code completion, refactoring, etc/ .Online source code revision control (a la subversion) .full online hosted database schema control (mysql or postgresql) .rails virtual consoles for interactive ruby/rails sessions including debugging and migrations. .Immediate gratification…log in, make a change, see the results in real-time. .full control of your ruby/rails versions, plugins and engines. thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/2 "2006-12-13T17:28:49Z")
Interesting, except I think perhaps without really compelling reasons, most developers won’t give up: 1. Textmate, vi, emacs, etc. The power and flexibility of a developer’s toolset would have to be surpassed in order to compel people to switch. 2. Performance. Even though it might perform well on the server-side, transmission over an Internet connection will slow it down (especially things like running tests, debugging etc.). Other than that it sounds pretty cool. I don’t think it would be something I would use (I prefer to automate more stuff using scripts and the console like deployment, testing etc…unless you figured out a way to do that), but cool concept nonetheless. –Jeremy ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/3 "2006-12-13T17:30:49Z")
I think this is a great idea. Done well might bring rails development to a new level (imagine also this thing packaged as instant rails is…) Luca 2006/12/13, Jeff A. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid): ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/4 "2006-12-13T19:04:12Z")
My opinion is that in the beginning of learning Rails its got to be as bare as possible. If you develop in this environment you wanna know the nitty gritty So textmate but no bundle editor. In the beginning type everything by hand. You want to feel the syntax. That’s why I did the Hivelogic install. By hand. Getting the feel of terminal. And then slowly automate certain actions you know. Like migrations. Type it in manually first. So imagine as a noob in my IDE and then totally alone in terminal. I would be naked and have the feeling of not learning a thing. But, these are just my 2 euro cents. Peter ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/5 "2006-12-13T17:32:50Z")
I think it would be great for new developers that want to ‘try’ ruby/rails without a lot of hassle or muss… So if that was the target maybe some Rails advocacy people could work on such a project…and host it for such a purpose. Or if it was truly beleived that people could/would develop this way, one of the rails hosting providers would be a good fit to build such a beast. Just thinking out loud… ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/6 "2006-12-13T20:39:24Z")
Some people should stop dreaming and start working… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/7 "2006-12-13T20:43:24Z")
🙂 I’m sure my dreams were influenced by some surfing I did last night… I saw these for the first time and was inspired dabbledb ([http://dabbledb.com/](http://dabbledb.com/)) Zoho Creator ([http://creator.zoho.com](http://creator.zoho.com)) Coghead ([http://www.coghead.com/](http://www.coghead.com/)) ---
**Author:** ![casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@casperjeff](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casperjeff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/rails-zero/79254/8 "2006-12-13T20:53:28Z")
This plugin would certainly address the tool-of-choice topics. [http://www.liverail.net/articles/2006/06/25/webdav-ruby-on-rails-plugin](http://www.liverail.net/articles/2006/06/25/webdav-ruby-on-rails-plugin) J