Pros/Cons of Turbogears/Rails?

Ruby
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Jaroslaw Z. wrote:

  • Built-in default SQLite makes it easier to set up?

What? :slight_smile: YAML is much easier.

adding oil to the flames

Oh, -please-. Can we please not compare things that are totally
incomparable? Data storage != database. The former is a tool for storing
data, the latter for manipulating data. DataBASES usually being of the
table-oriented paradigm because then let you manipulate data in other
ways than more imperative programming languages, and thus they enhance
your toolbox with more than just data storage capabilities if you can
use them.

True enough, you usually only use the data storage of databases when you
use an ORM layer, and persisting as [insert format here] might turn out
just fine. Still, I wouldn’t let any data storage without atomic
transaction support near a production web application under a
multithreaded / multiprocess server.

David V.

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Matt T. wrote:

By the way, we’ve yet to hear your opinion on Python and TurboGears…

Don’t bother… it’s probably not mature: how many 13-year-olds do you
know that are? :wink: Maybe we should just stick to assembly, because
that’s seriously the only thing that is fast and mature.

+2^32 - 1

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[email protected] wrote:

I was initially leaning towards Rails due to maturity,
but the most recent version of TurboGears seem to have
fixed a lot of the “ad hoc” feeling I got from previous
versions. But I’m still very much up in the air.

Thanks,
Ken

I’ve found that familiarity with Windows in the Ruby/Rails community is
less than in the Python/TG community. Ruby/Rails seems to have been
mainly *nix until fairly recently.

Sometimes the Windows version of a module or tutorial will lag
significantly. (ldap comes to mind.) Sometimes Windows-oriented
questions get pretty short shrift along the lines of: “Perish the
thought!” or “Why would you?” instead of serious treatment.

It’s not a deal-breaker and neither community is perfect in this
respect. I now work mostly with Ruby/Rails, but I did Python/CherryPy
for quite a while, and that’s my impression.

Ron