# Proposal For New Ruby Mailing List Subjects **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [February 4, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850 "2006-02-04T02:45:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/1 "2006-02-04T02:45:45Z")
Hey, I’ve been watching some of the perma-threads on ruby-talk and I really think we need to establish some new mailing lists to handle the various constant subjects that come up. I’m sure this list is nowhere near complete, but here’s what I thought up: - ruby-jobs – We should make it even harder for people with money to find people with skills. I know my book collection is rivaling the Imelda Marcos shoe collection, so making it easier for me to buy more books is dangerous. Head hunters should be relegated to the ruby-doesnt-need-you mailing list, but don’t tell them their e-mail is going there. They like telling their customers, “You should reconsider using Ruby since I can’t seem to find anyone to fill your position.” - ruby-whynot – Every person has an opinion so why not just air it out like a stinking possum carcass? This could cover a lot of ground. Topics like, “Why not Python?”, “Why not Ruby::Inline?”, “Why not Nitro?”, “Why not Rails Engines?” “Why not Macs?” “Why not Intel?” “Why not a virtual machine?” “Why not Java?” “Why not Sailor Moon styled bura-sera?” The potential is endless for this list. - ruby-sellouts – I personally got no problem whoring myself out to any company that pays my speaker’s fee, but some other folks might need a place to confess their sins. This list would have to be anonymous so that the posters could confess and not have their confessions ruin their thriving Web 2.0 Ajax Tagging Todo List Ferrari Payment Machines. Extra points if you can say one thing in your blog to pimp your goods, and then in private insult your customers. - ruby-rails-sheep – No, not a place for former Java sheep to come and turn their brains off again, but rather a place for people to discuss the constant topic of table pluralization. Is it a violation of all laws of nature? Is it overhead for minimal benefit? Is it a great way to show users ER diagrams? This is the place to chat it all up. - ruby-performance-haters – Ruby’s speed is the white elephant in the room. We all know it’s there, sitting in the room knocking the good china on the damn floor, but we just can’t talk about it because if we do we’ll have to actually clean up the damn thing’s giant piles of crap. Let’s blow the doors off this myth once and for all by creating a list solely devoted to just complaining about Ruby’s speed without doing much. Even better, let’s propose every solution _except_ writing a new virtual machine. - ruby-only – Some people can’t stand any deviation from the approved topics. Step outside the incredibly narrow vision their obsessive compulsive brains have for the list and WHAM! No IRC for you! The ruby-only list is for them. It would only allow messages which are valid Ruby source with no deviation. If it isn’t able to run in a special protected environment that has only core libraries– or has any comments–then it’s immediately removed. Nobody wants to waste their time on fluff crap like making friends, building community, having fun, or discovering new ideas from off topic discussions. Nope, it’s Ruby only 24/7. - ruby-smartass – This list would basically just be me mouthing off to people who end up doing better than me and make me jealous. I’d write scathing reviews of their projects and insult them all since I don’t like people anyway. I mean, I only donate my software to people so that I can spread bugs. Anyway, I’m smarter and sexier than the whole world so I need my own mailing list. If you haven’t figured it out, this is a joke. Laugh, have a great weekend, and don’t take things so seriously. Zed A. Shaw > **[Zed A. shaw](https://zedshaw.com/)** > > Personal essays and writings by Zed A. Shaw. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/2 "2006-02-04T02:54:47Z")
LOL @ Zedas -Ezra ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/3 "2006-02-04T03:09:57Z")
HeHe /me gets ready to pounce zedas on irc Tsume ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/4 "2006-02-04T07:41:32Z")
> If you haven’t figured it out, this is a joke. Laugh, have a great > weekend, and don’t take things so seriously. I was so disappointed when I read this last paragraph. The Ruby-list to discuss Sailor Moon would have been especially good. Now, comp.lang.ruby, just doesn’t sound as topical as it used to. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/5 "2006-02-04T03:43:14Z")
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > HeHe > /me gets ready to pounce zedas on irc > > Tsume We also need ruby-top-post-and-never-edit-the-quoted-material-that-follows 🙂 – James B. ?Design depends largely on constraints.? ? Charles Eames ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/6 "2006-02-06T02:48:27Z")
I _so_ want the sellouts list. One of these days, I’ll get serious mental problems from preaching the evil of AJAX and the upcoming Browser Wars 2.0 that I believe they’ll bring, and then each day at noon… erm, I meant early morning! I sit down at the computer and go on and design Yet Another completely flaky and crufty browser-based widget toolkit with an AJAX-based Client-Server event loop. I’m also slowly running out of: a) paranoid suspicions about the future of AJAX, and b) buzzwords to tag to my code. Any help is appreciated. David V. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2006, 9:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/proposal-for-new-ruby-mailing-list-subjects/100850/7 "2006-02-04T09:51:46Z")
2006/2/4, Zed S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid): > Hey, > > I’ve been watching some of the perma-threads on ruby-talk and I > really think we need to establish some new mailing lists to handle > the various constant subjects that come up. I’m sure this list is > nowhere near complete, but here’s what I thought up: Well done, Zed! But I couldn’t decide which list to be on. Could you please also provide an easy multiple choice test that figures out? A small Ruby app would be ok, too - but only with std libs! 🙂 Cheers robert