# Problem with nginx/0.8.54 and alias **URL:** \ **Category:** NGINX\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301 "2011-02-17T14:18:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![luislavena](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@luislavena](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/luislavena)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/1 "2011-02-17T14:18:57Z")
Hello, I try to set up a simple alias louse find out how. I read many articles. I almost try everything but nothing works. Currently I have this code in the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default. ```auto server { listen 80; root /var/www/monsite.fr; index index.html index.htm index.php; server_name monsite.fr; location /phpmyadmin { access_log off; alias /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin; index index.html index.php; } location / { try_files $uri $uri/ /index.html; } location ~ \.php$ { fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name; include fastcgi_params; } } ``` When I launch my browser’s page [http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/](http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/) I fall on the index.html file that I put in the directory /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/. By cons, when I run [http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/index.php](http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/index.php), there is nothing. The header returned is HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found. Thanks. Posted at Nginx Forum: > **[Problem with nginx/0.8.54 and alias](https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176110#msg-176110)** > > Hello, I try to set up a simple alias louse find out how. I read many articles. I almost try everything but nothing works. Currently I have this code in the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default. \[code\] server { listen 80; root /var/www/ ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/2 "2011-02-17T15:00:18Z")
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 08:16:39AM -0500, Amanager wrote: > ``` > server_name monsite.fr; > > ``` > > When I launch my browser’s page [http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/](http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/) I fall on > the index.html file that I put in the directory > /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/. By cons, when I run > [http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/index.php](http://monsite.fr/phpmyadmin/index.php), there is nothing. The header > returned is HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found. Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { fastcgi\_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; fastcgi\_param SCRIPT\_FILENAME /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; include fastcgi\_params; } – Igor S. > **[Igor Sysoev](http://sysoev.ru/en/)** ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/3 "2011-02-17T19:11:14Z")
## Igor S. Wrote: > Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { > fastcgi\_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; > fastcgi\_param SCRIPT\_FILENAME > > /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; > include fastcgi\_params; > } > Tried this out on 0.8.54 and got … pcre\_compile() failed: unrecognized character after (?\< in “^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$” at “NAME\>.+.php)$” Posted at Nginx Forum: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176236#msg-176236](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176236#msg-176236) ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/4 "2011-02-17T20:21:34Z")
Hello! On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 01:09:15PM -0500, Dayo wrote: > ## Igor S. Wrote: > > > Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: > > > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { Just a side note: forum is awful, it eats data. > > ``` > > fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; > > fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME > > > > ``` > > > > /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; > > include fastcgi\_params; > > } > > Tried this out on 0.8.54 and got … > > pcre\_compile() failed: unrecognized character after (?\< in > “^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$” at “NAME\>.+.php)$” Probably you have ancient PCRE library. Try (?P) form which is supported since PCRE 4.0. > **[Server names](http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/server_names.html#regex_names)** > > Server names are defined using the server\_name directive and determine which server block is used for a given request. See also “How nginx processes a request”. They may be defined using exact names, wildcard names, or regular expressions: Maxim D. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/5 "2011-02-18T08:13:12Z")
Hi Maxim! ## Maxim D. Wrote: > > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { > > Just a side note: forum is awful, it eats data. To be fair to the forum, I was the one that truncated the quote to only show the relevant part to my post. The long and complex quotes become impossible for me to follow. However, I do have a gripe with the forum which is the annoying preview code that hovers when mousing over links. I am considering using the Ruby Forum to follow things instead as that preview thing is a major irritation when using the Nginx Forum and the admin has ignored all requests to provide an option to switch it off. > after (?\< in > > > “^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$” at “NAME\>.+.php)$” > > Probably you have ancient PCRE library. Try (?P) > form > which is supported since PCRE 4.0. > > [Server names](http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/server_names.html#re) > gex\_names Thanks for that. The (?P) form works. Posted at Nginx Forum: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176387#msg-176387](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176387#msg-176387) ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 8:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/6 "2011-02-18T08:23:13Z")
On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:03 , Amanager wrote: > I tried this code but it does not work. I still have the header HTTP/1.1 > 404 Not Found. Regex locations depend on order, try this one: location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { … location ~ .php$ { … – Igor S. > **[Igor Sysoev](http://sysoev.ru/en/)** ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/7 "2011-02-18T08:05:05Z")
## Igor S. Wrote: > Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { > fastcgi\_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; > fastcgi\_param SCRIPT\_FILENAME > /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; > include fastcgi\_params; > } I tried this code but it does not work. I still have the header HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found. Posted at Nginx Forum: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176385#msg-176385](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176385#msg-176385) ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 9:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/8 "2011-02-18T09:06:26Z")
I have an error now when i restart nginx. /etc/init.d/nginx restart Restarting nginx: [emerg]: pcre\_compile() failed: unrecognized character after (? or (?- in “^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$” at “.+.php)$” in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default:65 configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test failed I have this code in /etc/nginx/sites-available/default ```auto server { listen 80; root /var/www/monsite.fr; index index.html index.htm index.php; server_name monsite.fr; location /phpmyadmin { access_log off; alias /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin; index index.html index.php; } location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+\.php)$ { fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; include fastcgi_params; } location / { try_files $uri $uri/ /index.html; } location ~ \.php$ { fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name; include fastcgi_params; } location ~ /\.ht { deny all; } } ``` And i have installed libpcre3, libpcre3-dev and compile the latest source from [pcre.org](http://pcre.org). So, I replace location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ by location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$. I have no error but it does not work more. Thanks. Posted at Nginx Forum: > **[Re: Problem with nginx/0.8.54 and alias](https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176394#msg-176394)** > > Hello, I try to set up a simple alias louse find out how. I read many articles. I almost try everything but nothing works. Currently I have this code in the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default. \[code\] server { listen 80; root /var/www/ ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 9:27am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/9 "2011-02-18T09:27:06Z")
Thanks to you edogawaconan and everybody. Now it works fine except for php sessions that do not work but that’s another problem. Thank you again to all. Posted at Nginx Forum: > **[Re: Problem with nginx/0.8.54 and alias](https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176397#msg-176397)** > > Hello, I try to set up a simple alias louse find out how. I read many articles. I almost try everything but nothing works. Currently I have this code in the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default. \[code\] server { listen 80; root /var/www/ ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 9:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/10 "2011-02-18T09:12:03Z")
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Igor S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { > fastcgi\_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; > fastcgi\_param SCRIPT\_FILENAME > /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$NAME; > include fastcgi\_params; > } more like, it goes like this: ###################### #this goes first or hell will broke loose location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(.\*.php)$ { alias /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/$1; fastcgi\_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; fastcgi\_param SCRIPT\_FILENAME $request\_filename; include fastcgi\_params; } #this must be done location = /phpmyadmin { rewrite ^ $scheme://$host$uri/ permanent; } #usual business location /phpmyadmin/ { index index.php; alias /var/www/monsite.fr/phpMyAdmin/; } ###################### though from my experience it’s much better to use symlink instead of alias. If “if” is evil, “alias” is lesser evil. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/11 "2011-02-18T13:20:05Z")
Hello! On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 02:11:50AM -0500, Dayo wrote: > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Use late 0.8.x with this configuration: > > > > > > > > location ~ ^/phpmyadmin/(?.+.php)$ { > > > > Just a side note: forum is awful, it eats data. > > To be fair to the forum, I was the one that truncated the quote to only > show the relevant part to my post. > The long and complex quotes become impossible for me to follow. I’m complaining about “” in regexp being eaten by forum engine, nothing else. Forum’s inability to preserve data intact is really distressing. > However, I do have a gripe with the forum which is the annoying preview > code that hovers when mousing over links. I am considering using the > Ruby Forum to follow things instead as that preview thing is a major > irritation when using the Nginx Forum and the admin has ignored all > requests to provide an option to switch it off. You may want to consider using mailing list directly instead. […] Maxim D. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/12 "2011-02-18T17:58:44Z")
Здравствуйте! ## Maxim D. Wrote: > forum engine, > nothing else. Forum’s inability to preserve data > intact is really > distressing. I see it has eaten “” in the quote above! Didn’t realise it had this happening. Probably considers it to be HTML and removes it. Probably not necessary and may be fixable by the admin but given lack of response to the preview issue, I wouldn’t hold my breath. > You may want to consider using mailing list > directly instead. I will have a look. thanks. Posted at Nginx Forum: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176524#msg-176524](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176524#msg-176524) ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/13 "2011-02-18T18:48:17Z")
On 2/18/11 11:57 AM, Dayo wrote: > > > The long and complex quotes become impossible > > > for me to follow. > > > > I’m complaining about “” in regexp being eaten by > > forum engine, > > nothing else. Forum’s inability to preserve data > > intact is really > > distressing. I am unaware of this particular issue until now, or, if I was it has slipped my mind. I have responded to your complaints in the past and fixed as many of them as possible. Instead of making these snide comments on the mailing list, it would be more helpful if you simply aired your issues with me privately. I then _might_ be more inclined to work on them. It would be better to handle forum issues on the forum (or privately) and not to pollute the mailing list with them. > I see it has eaten “” in the quote above! > Didn’t realise it had this happening. > Probably considers it to be HTML and removes it. > Probably not necessary and may be fixable by the admin but given lack of > response to the preview issue, I wouldn’t hold my breath. I addressed your issue about which you haven’t made “multiple” complaints. It seems that you are the _only_ one complaining about it despite there being nearly 4000 registered users. See above. I host and administer the forum in the little spare time that I have. I have no ads or other compensation. I try to deal with spam posts and legitimate posts that are caught in the spam filter in a timely fashion. If someone else feels that they can do a better job, let me know and I will give you the files and database in a zip and Igor can point the subdomain to your IP. No hard feelings. Or, if Igor wants the forum closed, all he needs do is say the word… > nginx mailing list > [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) > [mailman.nginx.org archive](http://nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx) – Jim O. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/14 "2011-02-18T23:08:18Z")
Hello! On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:46:44PM -0500, Jim O. wrote: > > > > show the relevant part to my post. > > > > slipped my mind. I have responded to your complaints in the past and > > > > fixed as many of them as possible. Instead of making these snide > > > > comments on the mailing list, it would be more helpful if you simply > > > > aired your issues with me privately. I then _might_ be more inclined > > > > to work on them. It would be better to handle forum issues on the > > > > forum (or privately) and not to pollute the mailing list with them. Sorry for being rude, but I’ve noticed the issue and commented according to it’s nature. I indeed consider anything which causes data corruption to be awful (and this isn’t the first data corruption issue with forum, unfortunately). I also consider nginx proxy cache to be awful for similar reasons - hope this will help you to feel yourself better. 😉 And as far as this indeed affects mailing list and forum, including people in this particular thread (note several messages with incorrect configs due to being stripped) - I don’t consider private reporting to be better way to go. Some more issues in additional to one with , in case you are willing to work on them: 1. BB-codes seems to be processed in mailing list messages shown in forum, thus providing another data damage vector. Example may be seen in the same thread, in Igor’s message: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176123#msg-176123](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176123#msg-176123) 1. Word wrapping in UTF-8 seems to be done based on bytes, not on chars. This causes really narrow (and hard to read) messages from forum in russian mailing list. 2. Subject isn’t correctly encoded - UTF-8 chars may be splitted into different MIME words (which is not allowed per standard). Igor currently workaround this with local script to re-encode them correctly, but this in turn may damage other Subject’s. Original value is preserved in X-Subject header, here is some recent example: X-Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?403=20Forbidden=20=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=20=D0=B2=D1=85=D0=BE?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=B4=D0=B5=20=D0=BD=D0=B0=20=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0?= =?UTF-8?Q?=BE=D0=B9=20=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD(?= Note “=D0” and “=BE” (single UTF-8 char) split across MIME words. It would be good to resolve the core issue with forum and remove the workaround in question. Maxim D. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/15 "2011-02-19T17:04:16Z")
On 2/19/11 1:12 AM, Dayo wrote: > no need to spit the dummy Hardly “spit[ting] the dummy”, though you are entitled to your opinion. Just telling it like it is but I applaud your (mis)use of Australian idiom. – Jim O. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/16 "2011-02-19T07:13:55Z")
## Jim O. Wrote: > have no ads or other compensation. I try to deal > Or, if Igor wants the forum closed, all he needs > do is say the word… Well, see here for requests [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?6,123310](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?6,123310). Perhaps people don’t complain because they see the request being ignored. Anyway, no need to spit the dummy. Please consider giving the option to disable the “feature”. Two methods are posted in the link. Thanks for your efforts. They are appreciated. Posted at Nginx Forum: [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176711#msg-176711](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176711#msg-176711) ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/17 "2011-02-20T00:16:50Z")
Hello! On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:05:17PM -0500, Jim O. wrote: […] > > And as far as this indeed affects mailing list and forum, > > including people in this particular thread (note several messages > > with incorrect configs due to being stripped) - I don’t Just a side note: you mail client seems to unable to handle correctly as well. > > consider private reporting to be better way to go. > > I don’t disagree but reporting it is different than making comments > such as “forum is awful” without giving specifics. That is hardly > helpful. I was really specific, Jim. I’ve commented relevant part with missed data and wrote that data was eaten by forum. If you think that it’s not specific - well, sorry. > or to strip the bbcode. Initially I was stripping the bbcode in > emails from the forum until it was brought to my attention that this > also stripped necessary information, mostly from regexps. When > informed, and at _your_ request, I changed it so bbcode is sent in > the emails. I can eliminate bbcode entirely, but that is the only > “solution”, albeit not a great one. I previously requested the very same thing: to eliminate data loss. Current situation is better than it was before the mentioned change, but it’s still far from ideal. […] Maxim D. p.s. Most of the time I tend to think that best method to resolve all forum-to-maillist problems would be to eliminate posting from forum to mailing list entirely, but sometimes try to be polite. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/18 "2011-02-20T02:30:33Z")
On 2/19/11 6:14 PM, Maxim D. wrote: > Just a side note: you mail client seems to unable to handle > correctly as well. Really? Attached are screen shots of the last email I sent which included several usages of that string. I use Thunderbird/3.1.7 (Mac) and the mail is sent via Google Apps. Screen captures are attached from both the sent folder from my client and that of the Google web client. They look OK to me. > > > consider private reporting to be better way to go. > > > > I don’t disagree but reporting it is different than making comments > > such as “forum is awful” without giving specifics. That is hardly > > helpful. > > I was really specific, Jim. I’ve commented relevant part with > missed data and wrote that data was eaten by forum. If you think > that it’s not specific - well, sorry. Again attached is your comment. You said “Just a side note: forum is awful, it eats data.”. No more. Without saying what data and when, it’s hardly what I would consider specific. I’ve been married for almost 20 years - closer to 25 if you consider both wives 😉 - and my experience is that they have wanted me to “just know” what they’re thinking. That’s bad enough but I can’t read your mind too. We can agree to disagree as to how specific your comment really was. If your commenting has been sent elsewhere then ASSuming that I’ve read it is a bad thing. I don’t read every message on this list. Some threads simply do not interest me and I stop reading them after the first email, or even based on the title of the first one. Subscribing to a mailing list hardly obligates me to read every message posted to it. Hence why I said, if there is an issue with the forum that you have commented on and I have seemed to “ignore” you, contact me directly. It’s not that I’m actually ignoring you, it’s that I simply haven’t “heard” you. Works in marriage too. > > bbcode. My choice was to send the messages “as is” with the bbcode > > […] > > Maxim D. > > p.s. Most of the time I tend to think that best method to resolve > all forum-to-maillist problems would be to eliminate posting from > forum to mailing list entirely, but sometimes try to be polite. Your feelings on this issue have been made known clearly since before the forum opened. Again, Igor is the final arbiter of this issue since he owns the “[nginx.org](http://nginx.org)” domain. If he wants the two way communication closed then the forum will wither and die. I would close it in such a situation since it would serve no purpose. I have little doubt that you have lobbied him extensively on this issue. As you can see, I prefer the mailing list myself. However, there are many people, including many who use the Russian mailing list forum, who prefer to get support via a forum. I cannot provide the type of technical support that you and Igor and some other very knowledgeable and smart people provide. Hosting the forum is a small thing that I can do since nginx has helped me greatly. As you can see from the attached page from Google Analytics, forum visits grew steadily over calendar year 2010. The dips are the weekends so I am guessing that people are often using it at work. The “bonce rate” is high. That may be that people find it useless, but it may be that people find the information they are seeking. Either way, the same would happen on the mailing list archives since they contain more or less the same information. As I mentioned, we have nearly 4000 registered users. As you can see, most visits are from USA, but Russia is second, Germany third, UK fourth and China fifth. Russian visitors are more likely to be returning visitors than are those from USA, Germany, UK, or China, and Russian visitors have somewhat lower bounce rate and somewhat higher page views/visit than do those from USA, Germany, and UK. Ukraine is number six in total visits. Page views per visit, new vs. returning visits, and bounce rates are similar to those of Russian visitors. I am guessing that many if not most of these visitors are availing themselves of pages in the Russian mailing list. I have not looked at data from other nations in the former USSR, but my point is that this may be useful to people from many nations. So solutions to the problems would seem better than cutting off help to those who want it and find this method better for them. While one million annual visitors hardly makes this a big site, it does indicate that there is at least a demand. If you consider that 87% bounce, then those visitors are responsible for roughly 870,000 out of roughly 1.4 million pages viewed. Extrapolating, the other 130,000 visitors viewed roughly 530,000 pages or just over four pages per visit. Considering the number of nginx users worldwide, I think this may be a significant number. Again, I’m asking for help with the code from anyone who can look it over. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/19 "2011-02-20T12:50:46Z")
Hello! On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 08:28:27PM -0500, Jim O. wrote: > > Just a side note: you mail client seems to unable to handle > > correctly as well. > > Really? Attached are screen shots of the last email I sent which > included several usages of that string. I use Thunderbird/3.1.7 > (Mac) and the mail is sent via Google Apps. Screen captures are > attached from both the sent folder from my client and that of the > Google web client. They look OK to me. Really. Number of spaces before and after is garbled. […] Maxim D. ---
**Author:** ![Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Amanager](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Amanager)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301/20 "2011-02-19T18:06:51Z")
On 2/18/11 5:06 PM, Maxim D. wrote: > > > > data. > > > > intact is really > > > > Sorry for being rude, but I’ve noticed the issue and commented > > > > according to it’s nature. I indeed consider anything which causes > > > > data corruption to be awful (and this isn’t the first data > > > > corruption issue with forum, unfortunately). I also consider > > > > nginx proxy cache to be awful for similar reasons - hope this will > > > > help you to feel yourself better. 😉 Maxim, this is not about my feelings. As Eleanor Roosevelt said, “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.”. If someone makes a comment to you that your help is awful, how likely are you to continue helping him? > And as far as this indeed affects mailing list and forum, > including people in this particular thread (note several messages > with incorrect configs due to being stripped) - I don’t > consider private reporting to be better way to go. I don’t disagree but reporting it is different than making comments such as “forum is awful” without giving specifics. That is hardly helpful. > Some more issues in additional to one with, in case you are > willing to work on them: > > 1. BB-codes seems to be processed in mailing list messages shown > in forum, thus providing another data damage vector. Example may > be seen in the same thread, in Igor’s message: We have gone over this one in the past. The way the forum engine works is that it “sees” anything enclosed in square brackets as bbcode. My choice was to send the messages “as is” with the bbcode or to strip the bbcode. Initially I was stripping the bbcode in emails from the forum until it was brought to my attention that this also stripped necessary information, mostly from regexps. When informed, and at _your_ request, I changed it so bbcode is sent in the emails. I can eliminate bbcode entirely, but that is the only “solution”, albeit not a great one. > [http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176123#msg-176123](http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,176110,176123#msg-176123) > > 1. Word wrapping in UTF-8 seems to be done based on bytes, not on > chars. This causes really narrow (and hard to read) messages from > forum in russian mailing list. How would I have known this? I don’t read the Russian mailing list. Again. making comments like “forum is awful” without this specific information is not helpful. I can look into this. > ``` > =?UTF-8?Q?=BE=D0=B9=20=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD(?= > > ``` > > Note “=D0” and “=BE” (single UTF-8 char) split across MIME words. > It would be good to resolve the core issue with forum and remove > the workaround in question. I may be able to fix this. I will look at the code. Again, anyone who knows PHP (I hardly do) is welcome to offer assistance to me on any/all of the above. Bear in mind, this is not my app and I can at best place band-aids on it. > Maxim D. – Jim O. [Next page](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/problem-with-nginx-0-8-54-and-alias/203301.md?page=2)