Please define these terms

On 9/24/06, Devin M. [email protected] wrote:

All right, now I feel guilty for derailing the thread.

Application

The things I keep filling out but not getting callbacks on.

Program

The thing people keep telling me to “get with”.

Library

The place where I make copies of my resume. They have books too!

Toolkit

The thing my dad keeps telling me to get, if I want a real job.

Framework

My dad builds these using a toolkit, I presume.

Package

Last layoff, I think this was about a week’s pay for every year with
the company.

Project

What, me projecting?

Ooh, a couple other easy ones that follow:

  • client – If I’m consulting, I guess I need these.
  • server – What pays the bills while looking for clients.

Badda-bing! :wink:
—John

Phrogz wrote:

Project
define Framework - Google Search
define:Package - Google Search
define Package - Google Search
define:Project - Google Search
define Project - Google Search
define:Program - Google Search
define Program - Google Search

Thanks for these links. Reading through them I am arriving at:

Application
Program that has an end-use, intended for accomplishing Projects.

Library
Program that has no independent usage, intended for building other
Programs.

Toolkit
GUI Library

Framework
Program providing support structure in which another program can be
organized and developed.

Package
Originizational unit of Programs: Module, Folder or Archive.

Project
A set of activities and the collection of data directed to a goal.
More specifically, a network of activities, or file(s) containing
such a network.
(In our case a Programming Project)

Program
[Fundamental term] Computer Instructions; Software.

T.

Trans wrote:

/ …

Toolkit: GUI Library

That’s a limited definition. YAML is a toolkit, as is REXML. The GUI
angle
may or may not be present. I would have defined it as a set of carefully
designed algorithms with wide applicability.

Framework
Program providing support structure in which another program can be
organized and developed.

Too limiting. A framework can also be a class or module definition that
ties
otherwise disparate elements together, or enforces rules in a beneficial
way. And classes are not programs, because they don’t necessarily have a
standalone executable identity (how a program is defined).

Paul L. wrote:

Framework
Program providing support structure in which another program can be
organized and developed.

Too limiting. A framework can also be a class or module definition that ties
otherwise disparate elements together, or enforces rules in a beneficial
way. And classes are not programs, because they don’t necessarily have a
standalone executable identity (how a program is defined).

I would say that the distinguishing feature of a Framework is that it
has an overall structure, such as an event loop, which calls back into
the code developed on top of the framework. A GUI library would
typically fit this pattern.

Devin M. wrote:

requires a human to “start it” (so, not a device driver), but might not

Project
A set of goals + at least one doer at any time (may not be the same over
time).

T.
Mostly, though, I’ll use a lot of these terms interchangeably. Why are
you codifying this? Is there not a more general approach you can take?

A Project Management Application, i.e. Build Tool. Partly I’m just just
curious but I am also wrestling with one naming issue so I thought it
might help to ask. I have a Project class which contains methods for
acting upon a… er… “Program” (?), and a Library class for utilzing
“it”. Both share much of the same “metadata” so they both delegate to
another class which stores that. Don’t know what to name that class
though. Right now it’s called er… well… Program :slight_smile: But then again
maybe I haven’t named any of them optimally. For instance, I was
suprised to see UML refer to what I would call a “library” as a
“package”.

T.

Joel VanderWerf wrote:

/ …

I would say that the distinguishing feature of a Framework is that it
has an overall structure, such as an event loop, which calls back into
the code developed on top of the framework. A GUI library would
typically fit this pattern.

Fair enough. I was thinking of Framework in more general terms, like the
overall design pattern kind of framework. Not necessarily associated
with
GUI design tools.

I say this because I heard the term framework used in this way before
there
was a GUI anything.

MonkeeSage wrote:

namespace, callback, protocol, server, client…

Well, I think we’re starting to get too far outside the scope of
‘categories of software’.

Ps. Trans, what’s wrong with the FOLDOC definitions of these words?

Nice resource. Thanks for mentioning it. They are missing a few term
though such as Project and Package.

T.